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How can I guess, when finding sw install instructions/suggestions for Ubuntu, if they are ok for the Lubuntu 16.04 version I've got on my pc?
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How can I guess, when finding sw install instructions/suggestions for Ubuntu, if they are ok for the Lubuntu 16.04 version I've got on my pc?
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The core of all desktop Ubuntu's (Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu-Mate, Lubuntu, Ubuntu-Budgie..) are the same so nearly every command will work in all. There are differences though, eg. Ubuntu uses GNOME or Unity which are based on GTK+ 3, Kubuntu uses KDE & Qt, etc so libraries are different, and a small 'install' for a GTK based *Ubuntu maybe large for Kubuntu, a small install command for Kubuntu could be very large when using Lubuntu. Whilst the commands will work (eg. asudo apt-get install) the effect could be different (for one or more flavors the download is small, others its huge)
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 10:36
Themes are different between DEsktops, so a theme for GTK+ based (gnome, unity..) you won't expect to work in Qt based Kubuntu, or Lubuntu. Hence whilst most commands will work perfectly in other flavors, there are some that won't in every flavor due differences in libs or config files etc.
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How can I guess, when finding sw install instructions/suggestions for Ubuntu, if they are ok for the Lubuntu 16.04 version I've got on my pc?
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How can I guess, when finding sw install instructions/suggestions for Ubuntu, if they are ok for the Lubuntu 16.04 version I've got on my pc?
Thans!
software-installation lubuntu
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The core of all desktop Ubuntu's (Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu-Mate, Lubuntu, Ubuntu-Budgie..) are the same so nearly every command will work in all. There are differences though, eg. Ubuntu uses GNOME or Unity which are based on GTK+ 3, Kubuntu uses KDE & Qt, etc so libraries are different, and a small 'install' for a GTK based *Ubuntu maybe large for Kubuntu, a small install command for Kubuntu could be very large when using Lubuntu. Whilst the commands will work (eg. asudo apt-get install) the effect could be different (for one or more flavors the download is small, others its huge)
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 10:36
Themes are different between DEsktops, so a theme for GTK+ based (gnome, unity..) you won't expect to work in Qt based Kubuntu, or Lubuntu. Hence whilst most commands will work perfectly in other flavors, there are some that won't in every flavor due differences in libs or config files etc.
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 10:38
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The core of all desktop Ubuntu's (Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu-Mate, Lubuntu, Ubuntu-Budgie..) are the same so nearly every command will work in all. There are differences though, eg. Ubuntu uses GNOME or Unity which are based on GTK+ 3, Kubuntu uses KDE & Qt, etc so libraries are different, and a small 'install' for a GTK based *Ubuntu maybe large for Kubuntu, a small install command for Kubuntu could be very large when using Lubuntu. Whilst the commands will work (eg. asudo apt-get install) the effect could be different (for one or more flavors the download is small, others its huge)
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 10:36
Themes are different between DEsktops, so a theme for GTK+ based (gnome, unity..) you won't expect to work in Qt based Kubuntu, or Lubuntu. Hence whilst most commands will work perfectly in other flavors, there are some that won't in every flavor due differences in libs or config files etc.
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 10:38
The core of all desktop Ubuntu's (Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu-Mate, Lubuntu, Ubuntu-Budgie..) are the same so nearly every command will work in all. There are differences though, eg. Ubuntu uses GNOME or Unity which are based on GTK+ 3, Kubuntu uses KDE & Qt, etc so libraries are different, and a small 'install' for a GTK based *Ubuntu maybe large for Kubuntu, a small install command for Kubuntu could be very large when using Lubuntu. Whilst the commands will work (eg. a
sudo apt-get install) the effect could be different (for one or more flavors the download is small, others its huge)– guiverc
Apr 9 at 10:36
The core of all desktop Ubuntu's (Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu-Mate, Lubuntu, Ubuntu-Budgie..) are the same so nearly every command will work in all. There are differences though, eg. Ubuntu uses GNOME or Unity which are based on GTK+ 3, Kubuntu uses KDE & Qt, etc so libraries are different, and a small 'install' for a GTK based *Ubuntu maybe large for Kubuntu, a small install command for Kubuntu could be very large when using Lubuntu. Whilst the commands will work (eg. a
sudo apt-get install) the effect could be different (for one or more flavors the download is small, others its huge)– guiverc
Apr 9 at 10:36
Themes are different between DEsktops, so a theme for GTK+ based (gnome, unity..) you won't expect to work in Qt based Kubuntu, or Lubuntu. Hence whilst most commands will work perfectly in other flavors, there are some that won't in every flavor due differences in libs or config files etc.
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 10:38
Themes are different between DEsktops, so a theme for GTK+ based (gnome, unity..) you won't expect to work in Qt based Kubuntu, or Lubuntu. Hence whilst most commands will work perfectly in other flavors, there are some that won't in every flavor due differences in libs or config files etc.
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The core of all desktop Ubuntu's (Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu-Mate, Lubuntu, Ubuntu-Budgie..) are the same so nearly every command will work in all flavors.
There are differences though, eg. Ubuntu uses GNOME (17.10) or Unity (14.04, 16.04) which are based on GTK+ 3, Kubuntu uses KDE & Qt, etc so libraries are different, and a small 'install' for a GTK+ based *Ubuntu maybe large for Kubuntu, a small install command for Kubuntu could be very large when using Lubuntu. Whilst the commands will work (eg. a sudo apt-get install) the effect could be different in installs, disk space & memory needed etc. (more libs require more memory which can slow your system down; Lubuntu is light but using other flavor libs will stop it being light)
Themes are different between DEsktops, so a theme for GTK+ based (gnome, unity..) you won't expect to work in Qt based Kubuntu, or Lubuntu. Hence whilst most commands will work perfectly in other flavors, there are some that won't in every flavor due differences in libs or config files etc
the following is an example in an attempt to explain a later question
kate is a text editor for KDE (or K DEsktop) or an equivalent to leafpad as found in Lubuntu (I believe anyway). Kate being for KDE thus uses Qt libs. My system is Ubuntu 17.10 (with GNOME & Mate, thus using GTK+ 3 libs). I
sudo apt install kate
which would install kate on any Ubuntu. When I hit enter it tells me
"0 to upgrade, 135 to newly install .."
which is a huge warning to me its going to use libraries that aren't in my system. 1 for kate I'd expect, maybe 1-4 extra is okay; 135 is a red-flag. It may work, but will be inefficient (memory wise, use more disk space etc)
My system has 8gb of ram so It'll handle having KDE's Qt libs, plus GTK+ (v3) libs in memory, but if I was using my old eeepc (1gb ram which runs Lubuntu) I'd answer "N" (not continue, or abort the install) as on 1gb of ram it'd be inefficient (ie. laggy). Sorry I don't know a filter, and don't use GUI tools much, but terminal commands give tons of output & clues...
A text editor (eg. kate) is a small 'app', if I was to pick something like Libre Office (huge office suite, Writer, Calc, ....) I'd expect a larger number than 5 extra files (my guess was 15-30), a quick dpkg -l libre* | grep ^ii|wc (deb-package -list libre* | grep (show only lines starting with 'ii' or installed) | wc (word-count; where I only look at line count) tells me i have 28 such files installed (named libre*). My point is large apps/suites like LibreOffice will be higher than 5, but the 135 for my kate example is way to big.
I can recognize the package names for kate & recognize libkf5* (kde v5 framework), libqt5* (kde qt v5 libs) from the names etc. But even if you don't recognize the names (you'll get to pick/recognize them pretty quickly if you want to) - the summary package count makes it pretty easy.
answered Apr 9 at 10:41
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Ok. Therefor, is there a way to "filter" install commands in order to get the proper installation without always have to bother people asking how to? As pretty obvious, I'm a newbie....
– Vallu
Apr 9 at 12:11
I'll try and help.kateis a text editor for KDE (or K DEsktop) or an equivalent toleafpadas found in Lubuntu (I believe anyway). Kate being for KDE thus uses Qt libs. My system is Ubuntu 17.10 (with GNOME, Mate thus GTK+ 3 libs installed). Isudo apt install katewhich would install kate on any Ubuntu. When I hit enter it tells me "0 to upgrade, 135 to newly install" which is a huge warning to me its going to use libraries that aren't in my system. 1 for kate I'd expect, maybe 1-4 extra is okay; 135 is a red-flag. It may work, but will be inefficient (memory wise).
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:20
My system has 8gb of ram so It'll handle having KDE's Qt libs, plus GTK+ (v3) libs in memory, but if I was using my old eeepc (1gb ram which runs Lubuntu) I'd answer "N" (not continue, or abort the install) as on 1gb of ram it'd be inefficient (ie. laggy). Sorry I don't know a filter, and don't use GUI tools much, but terminal commands give tons of output & clues... (ps: prior comment may seem strange; Mate & Gnome are different DEsktops & 'flavors', but I've loaded both on my system, so I can pick which I want to use when I login)
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:22
A text editor is a small 'app', if I was to pick something like Libre Office (huge office app, Writer, Calc, ....) I'd expect a larger number than 5 extra files (my guess was 15-30), a quickdpkg -l libre* | grep ^ii|wc(deb-package -list libre* | grep (show only lines starting with 'ii' or installed) | wc (word-count; where I only look at line count) tells me i have 28 such files installed (named libre*). My point is large apps/suites like LibreOffice will be higher than 5 (30 was pretty close), but the 135 for mykateexample is way to big..
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:35
I can read the package names forkate& recognize libkf5* (kde v5 framework), libqt5* (kde qt v5 libs) from the names etc. But even if you don't recognize the names (you'll get to pick/recognize them pretty quickly if you want to) - the summary package count makes it pretty easy.
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:39
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The core of all desktop Ubuntu's (Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu-Mate, Lubuntu, Ubuntu-Budgie..) are the same so nearly every command will work in all flavors.
There are differences though, eg. Ubuntu uses GNOME (17.10) or Unity (14.04, 16.04) which are based on GTK+ 3, Kubuntu uses KDE & Qt, etc so libraries are different, and a small 'install' for a GTK+ based *Ubuntu maybe large for Kubuntu, a small install command for Kubuntu could be very large when using Lubuntu. Whilst the commands will work (eg. a sudo apt-get install) the effect could be different in installs, disk space & memory needed etc. (more libs require more memory which can slow your system down; Lubuntu is light but using other flavor libs will stop it being light)
Themes are different between DEsktops, so a theme for GTK+ based (gnome, unity..) you won't expect to work in Qt based Kubuntu, or Lubuntu. Hence whilst most commands will work perfectly in other flavors, there are some that won't in every flavor due differences in libs or config files etc
the following is an example in an attempt to explain a later question
kate is a text editor for KDE (or K DEsktop) or an equivalent to leafpad as found in Lubuntu (I believe anyway). Kate being for KDE thus uses Qt libs. My system is Ubuntu 17.10 (with GNOME & Mate, thus using GTK+ 3 libs). I
sudo apt install kate
which would install kate on any Ubuntu. When I hit enter it tells me
"0 to upgrade, 135 to newly install .."
which is a huge warning to me its going to use libraries that aren't in my system. 1 for kate I'd expect, maybe 1-4 extra is okay; 135 is a red-flag. It may work, but will be inefficient (memory wise, use more disk space etc)
My system has 8gb of ram so It'll handle having KDE's Qt libs, plus GTK+ (v3) libs in memory, but if I was using my old eeepc (1gb ram which runs Lubuntu) I'd answer "N" (not continue, or abort the install) as on 1gb of ram it'd be inefficient (ie. laggy). Sorry I don't know a filter, and don't use GUI tools much, but terminal commands give tons of output & clues...
A text editor (eg. kate) is a small 'app', if I was to pick something like Libre Office (huge office suite, Writer, Calc, ....) I'd expect a larger number than 5 extra files (my guess was 15-30), a quick dpkg -l libre* | grep ^ii|wc (deb-package -list libre* | grep (show only lines starting with 'ii' or installed) | wc (word-count; where I only look at line count) tells me i have 28 such files installed (named libre*). My point is large apps/suites like LibreOffice will be higher than 5, but the 135 for my kate example is way to big.
I can recognize the package names for kate & recognize libkf5* (kde v5 framework), libqt5* (kde qt v5 libs) from the names etc. But even if you don't recognize the names (you'll get to pick/recognize them pretty quickly if you want to) - the summary package count makes it pretty easy.
answered Apr 9 at 10:41
guiverc
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Ok. Therefor, is there a way to "filter" install commands in order to get the proper installation without always have to bother people asking how to? As pretty obvious, I'm a newbie....
– Vallu
Apr 9 at 12:11
I'll try and help.kateis a text editor for KDE (or K DEsktop) or an equivalent toleafpadas found in Lubuntu (I believe anyway). Kate being for KDE thus uses Qt libs. My system is Ubuntu 17.10 (with GNOME, Mate thus GTK+ 3 libs installed). Isudo apt install katewhich would install kate on any Ubuntu. When I hit enter it tells me "0 to upgrade, 135 to newly install" which is a huge warning to me its going to use libraries that aren't in my system. 1 for kate I'd expect, maybe 1-4 extra is okay; 135 is a red-flag. It may work, but will be inefficient (memory wise).
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:20
My system has 8gb of ram so It'll handle having KDE's Qt libs, plus GTK+ (v3) libs in memory, but if I was using my old eeepc (1gb ram which runs Lubuntu) I'd answer "N" (not continue, or abort the install) as on 1gb of ram it'd be inefficient (ie. laggy). Sorry I don't know a filter, and don't use GUI tools much, but terminal commands give tons of output & clues... (ps: prior comment may seem strange; Mate & Gnome are different DEsktops & 'flavors', but I've loaded both on my system, so I can pick which I want to use when I login)
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:22
A text editor is a small 'app', if I was to pick something like Libre Office (huge office app, Writer, Calc, ....) I'd expect a larger number than 5 extra files (my guess was 15-30), a quickdpkg -l libre* | grep ^ii|wc(deb-package -list libre* | grep (show only lines starting with 'ii' or installed) | wc (word-count; where I only look at line count) tells me i have 28 such files installed (named libre*). My point is large apps/suites like LibreOffice will be higher than 5 (30 was pretty close), but the 135 for mykateexample is way to big..
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:35
I can read the package names forkate& recognize libkf5* (kde v5 framework), libqt5* (kde qt v5 libs) from the names etc. But even if you don't recognize the names (you'll get to pick/recognize them pretty quickly if you want to) - the summary package count makes it pretty easy.
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:39
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The core of all desktop Ubuntu's (Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu-Mate, Lubuntu, Ubuntu-Budgie..) are the same so nearly every command will work in all flavors.
There are differences though, eg. Ubuntu uses GNOME (17.10) or Unity (14.04, 16.04) which are based on GTK+ 3, Kubuntu uses KDE & Qt, etc so libraries are different, and a small 'install' for a GTK+ based *Ubuntu maybe large for Kubuntu, a small install command for Kubuntu could be very large when using Lubuntu. Whilst the commands will work (eg. a sudo apt-get install) the effect could be different in installs, disk space & memory needed etc. (more libs require more memory which can slow your system down; Lubuntu is light but using other flavor libs will stop it being light)
Themes are different between DEsktops, so a theme for GTK+ based (gnome, unity..) you won't expect to work in Qt based Kubuntu, or Lubuntu. Hence whilst most commands will work perfectly in other flavors, there are some that won't in every flavor due differences in libs or config files etc
the following is an example in an attempt to explain a later question
kate is a text editor for KDE (or K DEsktop) or an equivalent to leafpad as found in Lubuntu (I believe anyway). Kate being for KDE thus uses Qt libs. My system is Ubuntu 17.10 (with GNOME & Mate, thus using GTK+ 3 libs). I
sudo apt install kate
which would install kate on any Ubuntu. When I hit enter it tells me
"0 to upgrade, 135 to newly install .."
which is a huge warning to me its going to use libraries that aren't in my system. 1 for kate I'd expect, maybe 1-4 extra is okay; 135 is a red-flag. It may work, but will be inefficient (memory wise, use more disk space etc)
My system has 8gb of ram so It'll handle having KDE's Qt libs, plus GTK+ (v3) libs in memory, but if I was using my old eeepc (1gb ram which runs Lubuntu) I'd answer "N" (not continue, or abort the install) as on 1gb of ram it'd be inefficient (ie. laggy). Sorry I don't know a filter, and don't use GUI tools much, but terminal commands give tons of output & clues...
A text editor (eg. kate) is a small 'app', if I was to pick something like Libre Office (huge office suite, Writer, Calc, ....) I'd expect a larger number than 5 extra files (my guess was 15-30), a quick dpkg -l libre* | grep ^ii|wc (deb-package -list libre* | grep (show only lines starting with 'ii' or installed) | wc (word-count; where I only look at line count) tells me i have 28 such files installed (named libre*). My point is large apps/suites like LibreOffice will be higher than 5, but the 135 for my kate example is way to big.
I can recognize the package names for kate & recognize libkf5* (kde v5 framework), libqt5* (kde qt v5 libs) from the names etc. But even if you don't recognize the names (you'll get to pick/recognize them pretty quickly if you want to) - the summary package count makes it pretty easy.
answered Apr 9 at 10:41
guiverc
3,59011222
Ok. Therefor, is there a way to "filter" install commands in order to get the proper installation without always have to bother people asking how to? As pretty obvious, I'm a newbie....
– Vallu
Apr 9 at 12:11
I'll try and help.kateis a text editor for KDE (or K DEsktop) or an equivalent toleafpadas found in Lubuntu (I believe anyway). Kate being for KDE thus uses Qt libs. My system is Ubuntu 17.10 (with GNOME, Mate thus GTK+ 3 libs installed). Isudo apt install katewhich would install kate on any Ubuntu. When I hit enter it tells me "0 to upgrade, 135 to newly install" which is a huge warning to me its going to use libraries that aren't in my system. 1 for kate I'd expect, maybe 1-4 extra is okay; 135 is a red-flag. It may work, but will be inefficient (memory wise).
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:20
My system has 8gb of ram so It'll handle having KDE's Qt libs, plus GTK+ (v3) libs in memory, but if I was using my old eeepc (1gb ram which runs Lubuntu) I'd answer "N" (not continue, or abort the install) as on 1gb of ram it'd be inefficient (ie. laggy). Sorry I don't know a filter, and don't use GUI tools much, but terminal commands give tons of output & clues... (ps: prior comment may seem strange; Mate & Gnome are different DEsktops & 'flavors', but I've loaded both on my system, so I can pick which I want to use when I login)
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:22
A text editor is a small 'app', if I was to pick something like Libre Office (huge office app, Writer, Calc, ....) I'd expect a larger number than 5 extra files (my guess was 15-30), a quickdpkg -l libre* | grep ^ii|wc(deb-package -list libre* | grep (show only lines starting with 'ii' or installed) | wc (word-count; where I only look at line count) tells me i have 28 such files installed (named libre*). My point is large apps/suites like LibreOffice will be higher than 5 (30 was pretty close), but the 135 for mykateexample is way to big..
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:35
I can read the package names forkate& recognize libkf5* (kde v5 framework), libqt5* (kde qt v5 libs) from the names etc. But even if you don't recognize the names (you'll get to pick/recognize them pretty quickly if you want to) - the summary package count makes it pretty easy.
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:39
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The core of all desktop Ubuntu's (Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu-Mate, Lubuntu, Ubuntu-Budgie..) are the same so nearly every command will work in all flavors.
There are differences though, eg. Ubuntu uses GNOME (17.10) or Unity (14.04, 16.04) which are based on GTK+ 3, Kubuntu uses KDE & Qt, etc so libraries are different, and a small 'install' for a GTK+ based *Ubuntu maybe large for Kubuntu, a small install command for Kubuntu could be very large when using Lubuntu. Whilst the commands will work (eg. a sudo apt-get install) the effect could be different in installs, disk space & memory needed etc. (more libs require more memory which can slow your system down; Lubuntu is light but using other flavor libs will stop it being light)
Themes are different between DEsktops, so a theme for GTK+ based (gnome, unity..) you won't expect to work in Qt based Kubuntu, or Lubuntu. Hence whilst most commands will work perfectly in other flavors, there are some that won't in every flavor due differences in libs or config files etc
the following is an example in an attempt to explain a later question
kate is a text editor for KDE (or K DEsktop) or an equivalent to leafpad as found in Lubuntu (I believe anyway). Kate being for KDE thus uses Qt libs. My system is Ubuntu 17.10 (with GNOME & Mate, thus using GTK+ 3 libs). I
sudo apt install kate
which would install kate on any Ubuntu. When I hit enter it tells me
"0 to upgrade, 135 to newly install .."
which is a huge warning to me its going to use libraries that aren't in my system. 1 for kate I'd expect, maybe 1-4 extra is okay; 135 is a red-flag. It may work, but will be inefficient (memory wise, use more disk space etc)
My system has 8gb of ram so It'll handle having KDE's Qt libs, plus GTK+ (v3) libs in memory, but if I was using my old eeepc (1gb ram which runs Lubuntu) I'd answer "N" (not continue, or abort the install) as on 1gb of ram it'd be inefficient (ie. laggy). Sorry I don't know a filter, and don't use GUI tools much, but terminal commands give tons of output & clues...
A text editor (eg. kate) is a small 'app', if I was to pick something like Libre Office (huge office suite, Writer, Calc, ....) I'd expect a larger number than 5 extra files (my guess was 15-30), a quick dpkg -l libre* | grep ^ii|wc (deb-package -list libre* | grep (show only lines starting with 'ii' or installed) | wc (word-count; where I only look at line count) tells me i have 28 such files installed (named libre*). My point is large apps/suites like LibreOffice will be higher than 5, but the 135 for my kate example is way to big.
I can recognize the package names for kate & recognize libkf5* (kde v5 framework), libqt5* (kde qt v5 libs) from the names etc. But even if you don't recognize the names (you'll get to pick/recognize them pretty quickly if you want to) - the summary package count makes it pretty easy.
answered Apr 9 at 10:41
guiverc
3,59011222
The core of all desktop Ubuntu's (Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu-Mate, Lubuntu, Ubuntu-Budgie..) are the same so nearly every command will work in all flavors.
There are differences though, eg. Ubuntu uses GNOME (17.10) or Unity (14.04, 16.04) which are based on GTK+ 3, Kubuntu uses KDE & Qt, etc so libraries are different, and a small 'install' for a GTK+ based *Ubuntu maybe large for Kubuntu, a small install command for Kubuntu could be very large when using Lubuntu. Whilst the commands will work (eg. a sudo apt-get install) the effect could be different in installs, disk space & memory needed etc. (more libs require more memory which can slow your system down; Lubuntu is light but using other flavor libs will stop it being light)
Themes are different between DEsktops, so a theme for GTK+ based (gnome, unity..) you won't expect to work in Qt based Kubuntu, or Lubuntu. Hence whilst most commands will work perfectly in other flavors, there are some that won't in every flavor due differences in libs or config files etc
the following is an example in an attempt to explain a later question
kate is a text editor for KDE (or K DEsktop) or an equivalent to leafpad as found in Lubuntu (I believe anyway). Kate being for KDE thus uses Qt libs. My system is Ubuntu 17.10 (with GNOME & Mate, thus using GTK+ 3 libs). I
sudo apt install kate
which would install kate on any Ubuntu. When I hit enter it tells me
"0 to upgrade, 135 to newly install .."
which is a huge warning to me its going to use libraries that aren't in my system. 1 for kate I'd expect, maybe 1-4 extra is okay; 135 is a red-flag. It may work, but will be inefficient (memory wise, use more disk space etc)
My system has 8gb of ram so It'll handle having KDE's Qt libs, plus GTK+ (v3) libs in memory, but if I was using my old eeepc (1gb ram which runs Lubuntu) I'd answer "N" (not continue, or abort the install) as on 1gb of ram it'd be inefficient (ie. laggy). Sorry I don't know a filter, and don't use GUI tools much, but terminal commands give tons of output & clues...
A text editor (eg. kate) is a small 'app', if I was to pick something like Libre Office (huge office suite, Writer, Calc, ....) I'd expect a larger number than 5 extra files (my guess was 15-30), a quick dpkg -l libre* | grep ^ii|wc (deb-package -list libre* | grep (show only lines starting with 'ii' or installed) | wc (word-count; where I only look at line count) tells me i have 28 such files installed (named libre*). My point is large apps/suites like LibreOffice will be higher than 5, but the 135 for my kate example is way to big.
I can recognize the package names for kate & recognize libkf5* (kde v5 framework), libqt5* (kde qt v5 libs) from the names etc. But even if you don't recognize the names (you'll get to pick/recognize them pretty quickly if you want to) - the summary package count makes it pretty easy.
answered Apr 9 at 10:41
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answered Apr 9 at 10:41
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answered Apr 9 at 10:41
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answered Apr 9 at 10:41
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Ok. Therefor, is there a way to "filter" install commands in order to get the proper installation without always have to bother people asking how to? As pretty obvious, I'm a newbie....
– Vallu
Apr 9 at 12:11
I'll try and help.kateis a text editor for KDE (or K DEsktop) or an equivalent toleafpadas found in Lubuntu (I believe anyway). Kate being for KDE thus uses Qt libs. My system is Ubuntu 17.10 (with GNOME, Mate thus GTK+ 3 libs installed). Isudo apt install katewhich would install kate on any Ubuntu. When I hit enter it tells me "0 to upgrade, 135 to newly install" which is a huge warning to me its going to use libraries that aren't in my system. 1 for kate I'd expect, maybe 1-4 extra is okay; 135 is a red-flag. It may work, but will be inefficient (memory wise).
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:20
My system has 8gb of ram so It'll handle having KDE's Qt libs, plus GTK+ (v3) libs in memory, but if I was using my old eeepc (1gb ram which runs Lubuntu) I'd answer "N" (not continue, or abort the install) as on 1gb of ram it'd be inefficient (ie. laggy). Sorry I don't know a filter, and don't use GUI tools much, but terminal commands give tons of output & clues... (ps: prior comment may seem strange; Mate & Gnome are different DEsktops & 'flavors', but I've loaded both on my system, so I can pick which I want to use when I login)
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:22
A text editor is a small 'app', if I was to pick something like Libre Office (huge office app, Writer, Calc, ....) I'd expect a larger number than 5 extra files (my guess was 15-30), a quickdpkg -l libre* | grep ^ii|wc(deb-package -list libre* | grep (show only lines starting with 'ii' or installed) | wc (word-count; where I only look at line count) tells me i have 28 such files installed (named libre*). My point is large apps/suites like LibreOffice will be higher than 5 (30 was pretty close), but the 135 for mykateexample is way to big..
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:35
I can read the package names forkate& recognize libkf5* (kde v5 framework), libqt5* (kde qt v5 libs) from the names etc. But even if you don't recognize the names (you'll get to pick/recognize them pretty quickly if you want to) - the summary package count makes it pretty easy.
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:39
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Ok. Therefor, is there a way to "filter" install commands in order to get the proper installation without always have to bother people asking how to? As pretty obvious, I'm a newbie....
– Vallu
Apr 9 at 12:11
I'll try and help.kateis a text editor for KDE (or K DEsktop) or an equivalent toleafpadas found in Lubuntu (I believe anyway). Kate being for KDE thus uses Qt libs. My system is Ubuntu 17.10 (with GNOME, Mate thus GTK+ 3 libs installed). Isudo apt install katewhich would install kate on any Ubuntu. When I hit enter it tells me "0 to upgrade, 135 to newly install" which is a huge warning to me its going to use libraries that aren't in my system. 1 for kate I'd expect, maybe 1-4 extra is okay; 135 is a red-flag. It may work, but will be inefficient (memory wise).
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:20
My system has 8gb of ram so It'll handle having KDE's Qt libs, plus GTK+ (v3) libs in memory, but if I was using my old eeepc (1gb ram which runs Lubuntu) I'd answer "N" (not continue, or abort the install) as on 1gb of ram it'd be inefficient (ie. laggy). Sorry I don't know a filter, and don't use GUI tools much, but terminal commands give tons of output & clues... (ps: prior comment may seem strange; Mate & Gnome are different DEsktops & 'flavors', but I've loaded both on my system, so I can pick which I want to use when I login)
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:22
A text editor is a small 'app', if I was to pick something like Libre Office (huge office app, Writer, Calc, ....) I'd expect a larger number than 5 extra files (my guess was 15-30), a quickdpkg -l libre* | grep ^ii|wc(deb-package -list libre* | grep (show only lines starting with 'ii' or installed) | wc (word-count; where I only look at line count) tells me i have 28 such files installed (named libre*). My point is large apps/suites like LibreOffice will be higher than 5 (30 was pretty close), but the 135 for mykateexample is way to big..
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:35
I can read the package names forkate& recognize libkf5* (kde v5 framework), libqt5* (kde qt v5 libs) from the names etc. But even if you don't recognize the names (you'll get to pick/recognize them pretty quickly if you want to) - the summary package count makes it pretty easy.
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:39
Ok. Therefor, is there a way to "filter" install commands in order to get the proper installation without always have to bother people asking how to? As pretty obvious, I'm a newbie....
– Vallu
Apr 9 at 12:11
Ok. Therefor, is there a way to "filter" install commands in order to get the proper installation without always have to bother people asking how to? As pretty obvious, I'm a newbie....
– Vallu
Apr 9 at 12:11
I'll try and help.
kate is a text editor for KDE (or K DEsktop) or an equivalent to leafpad as found in Lubuntu (I believe anyway). Kate being for KDE thus uses Qt libs. My system is Ubuntu 17.10 (with GNOME, Mate thus GTK+ 3 libs installed). I sudo apt install kate which would install kate on any Ubuntu. When I hit enter it tells me "0 to upgrade, 135 to newly install" which is a huge warning to me its going to use libraries that aren't in my system. 1 for kate I'd expect, maybe 1-4 extra is okay; 135 is a red-flag. It may work, but will be inefficient (memory wise).– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:20
I'll try and help.
kate is a text editor for KDE (or K DEsktop) or an equivalent to leafpad as found in Lubuntu (I believe anyway). Kate being for KDE thus uses Qt libs. My system is Ubuntu 17.10 (with GNOME, Mate thus GTK+ 3 libs installed). I sudo apt install kate which would install kate on any Ubuntu. When I hit enter it tells me "0 to upgrade, 135 to newly install" which is a huge warning to me its going to use libraries that aren't in my system. 1 for kate I'd expect, maybe 1-4 extra is okay; 135 is a red-flag. It may work, but will be inefficient (memory wise).– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:20
My system has 8gb of ram so It'll handle having KDE's Qt libs, plus GTK+ (v3) libs in memory, but if I was using my old eeepc (1gb ram which runs Lubuntu) I'd answer "N" (not continue, or abort the install) as on 1gb of ram it'd be inefficient (ie. laggy). Sorry I don't know a filter, and don't use GUI tools much, but terminal commands give tons of output & clues... (ps: prior comment may seem strange; Mate & Gnome are different DEsktops & 'flavors', but I've loaded both on my system, so I can pick which I want to use when I login)
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:22
My system has 8gb of ram so It'll handle having KDE's Qt libs, plus GTK+ (v3) libs in memory, but if I was using my old eeepc (1gb ram which runs Lubuntu) I'd answer "N" (not continue, or abort the install) as on 1gb of ram it'd be inefficient (ie. laggy). Sorry I don't know a filter, and don't use GUI tools much, but terminal commands give tons of output & clues... (ps: prior comment may seem strange; Mate & Gnome are different DEsktops & 'flavors', but I've loaded both on my system, so I can pick which I want to use when I login)
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:22
A text editor is a small 'app', if I was to pick something like Libre Office (huge office app, Writer, Calc, ....) I'd expect a larger number than 5 extra files (my guess was 15-30), a quick
dpkg -l libre* | grep ^ii|wc (deb-package -list libre* | grep (show only lines starting with 'ii' or installed) | wc (word-count; where I only look at line count) tells me i have 28 such files installed (named libre*). My point is large apps/suites like LibreOffice will be higher than 5 (30 was pretty close), but the 135 for my kate example is way to big..– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:35
A text editor is a small 'app', if I was to pick something like Libre Office (huge office app, Writer, Calc, ....) I'd expect a larger number than 5 extra files (my guess was 15-30), a quick
dpkg -l libre* | grep ^ii|wc (deb-package -list libre* | grep (show only lines starting with 'ii' or installed) | wc (word-count; where I only look at line count) tells me i have 28 such files installed (named libre*). My point is large apps/suites like LibreOffice will be higher than 5 (30 was pretty close), but the 135 for my kate example is way to big..– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:35
I can read the package names for
kate & recognize libkf5* (kde v5 framework), libqt5* (kde qt v5 libs) from the names etc. But even if you don't recognize the names (you'll get to pick/recognize them pretty quickly if you want to) - the summary package count makes it pretty easy.– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:39
I can read the package names for
kate & recognize libkf5* (kde v5 framework), libqt5* (kde qt v5 libs) from the names etc. But even if you don't recognize the names (you'll get to pick/recognize them pretty quickly if you want to) - the summary package count makes it pretty easy.– guiverc
Apr 9 at 12:39
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The core of all desktop Ubuntu's (Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu-Mate, Lubuntu, Ubuntu-Budgie..) are the same so nearly every command will work in all. There are differences though, eg. Ubuntu uses GNOME or Unity which are based on GTK+ 3, Kubuntu uses KDE & Qt, etc so libraries are different, and a small 'install' for a GTK based *Ubuntu maybe large for Kubuntu, a small install command for Kubuntu could be very large when using Lubuntu. Whilst the commands will work (eg. a
sudo apt-get install) the effect could be different (for one or more flavors the download is small, others its huge)– guiverc
Apr 9 at 10:36
Themes are different between DEsktops, so a theme for GTK+ based (gnome, unity..) you won't expect to work in Qt based Kubuntu, or Lubuntu. Hence whilst most commands will work perfectly in other flavors, there are some that won't in every flavor due differences in libs or config files etc.
– guiverc
Apr 9 at 10:38