When using Wish as suggested by the spell to do something other than duplicate a lower-level spell, will the caster still suffer?
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The PHB's description of wish specifies a few different ways to use the spell:
The basic use of this spell is to duplicate any other spell of 8th level or lower. You don't need to meet any requirements in that spell, including costly components. The spell simply takes effect.
Alternatively, you can create one of the following effects of your choice:
Examples include: healing allies, creating a mundane item worth 25K gp, granting resistance from a damage type, granting immunity to a damage type for 8 hours, etc.
Then later in the spell description, it states this:
The stress of casting this spell to produce any effect other than duplicating another spell weakens you. [...]
Does that mean that if the caster creates a 25K gp diamond with wish, they still suffer the negative side effects?
I originally thought that since they were suggested ways to use the spell, they were consequence-free.
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The PHB's description of wish specifies a few different ways to use the spell:
The basic use of this spell is to duplicate any other spell of 8th level or lower. You don't need to meet any requirements in that spell, including costly components. The spell simply takes effect.
Alternatively, you can create one of the following effects of your choice:
Examples include: healing allies, creating a mundane item worth 25K gp, granting resistance from a damage type, granting immunity to a damage type for 8 hours, etc.
Then later in the spell description, it states this:
The stress of casting this spell to produce any effect other than duplicating another spell weakens you. [...]
Does that mean that if the caster creates a 25K gp diamond with wish, they still suffer the negative side effects?
I originally thought that since they were suggested ways to use the spell, they were consequence-free.
dnd-5e spells wish
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5e wizard retirement plan: 1) get to lv 17. 2) learn Wish. 3) sell 1/day clone vessels for half price (discard clone consciously).
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The PHB's description of wish specifies a few different ways to use the spell:
The basic use of this spell is to duplicate any other spell of 8th level or lower. You don't need to meet any requirements in that spell, including costly components. The spell simply takes effect.
Alternatively, you can create one of the following effects of your choice:
Examples include: healing allies, creating a mundane item worth 25K gp, granting resistance from a damage type, granting immunity to a damage type for 8 hours, etc.
Then later in the spell description, it states this:
The stress of casting this spell to produce any effect other than duplicating another spell weakens you. [...]
Does that mean that if the caster creates a 25K gp diamond with wish, they still suffer the negative side effects?
I originally thought that since they were suggested ways to use the spell, they were consequence-free.
dnd-5e spells wish
edited Aug 7 at 18:55
V2Blast
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asked Aug 7 at 15:43
MikeTheBard
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The PHB's description of wish specifies a few different ways to use the spell:
The basic use of this spell is to duplicate any other spell of 8th level or lower. You don't need to meet any requirements in that spell, including costly components. The spell simply takes effect.
Alternatively, you can create one of the following effects of your choice:
Examples include: healing allies, creating a mundane item worth 25K gp, granting resistance from a damage type, granting immunity to a damage type for 8 hours, etc.
Then later in the spell description, it states this:
The stress of casting this spell to produce any effect other than duplicating another spell weakens you. [...]
Does that mean that if the caster creates a 25K gp diamond with wish, they still suffer the negative side effects?
I originally thought that since they were suggested ways to use the spell, they were consequence-free.
dnd-5e spells wish
edited Aug 7 at 18:55
V2Blast
12.3k22783
asked Aug 7 at 15:43
MikeTheBard
784
edited Aug 7 at 18:55
V2Blast
12.3k22783
edited Aug 7 at 18:55
V2Blast
12.3k22783
edited Aug 7 at 18:55
V2Blast
12.3k22783
12.3k22783
asked Aug 7 at 15:43
MikeTheBard
784
asked Aug 7 at 15:43
MikeTheBard
784
asked Aug 7 at 15:43
MikeTheBard
784
784
5e wizard retirement plan: 1) get to lv 17. 2) learn Wish. 3) sell 1/day clone vessels for half price (discard clone consciously).
– Mindwin
Aug 7 at 18:00
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5e wizard retirement plan: 1) get to lv 17. 2) learn Wish. 3) sell 1/day clone vessels for half price (discard clone consciously).
– Mindwin
Aug 7 at 18:00
5e wizard retirement plan: 1) get to lv 17. 2) learn Wish. 3) sell 1/day clone vessels for half price (discard clone consciously).
– Mindwin
Aug 7 at 18:00
5e wizard retirement plan: 1) get to lv 17. 2) learn Wish. 3) sell 1/day clone vessels for half price (discard clone consciously).
– Mindwin
Aug 7 at 18:00
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You will still get stress
Jeremy Crawford has clarified exactly this in this tweet:
Wish spell: (1) Duplicated a spell of 8th level or lower? No stress. (2) Did anything else with wish? Stress. #DnD
A normal reading of the rules you already quote also specify "any effect other than duplicating a spell" so I think it is very clear that this is the case
answered Aug 7 at 15:46
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I know it's a common phrase on this site, but for good reason: Spells do what they say. Adding that in wouldn't hurt this already good answer.
– lucasvw
Aug 7 at 15:57
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Looks like i need to apologize to my DM.
– MikeTheBard
Aug 7 at 18:52
Basically, the "suggested uses" are simply something the spell can definitely do; anything beyond that requires GM approval. The suggested uses other than duplicating a lower-level spell still cause the negative side effects.
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Aug 7 at 18:56
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1 Answer
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active
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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up vote
29
down vote
accepted
You will still get stress
Jeremy Crawford has clarified exactly this in this tweet:
Wish spell: (1) Duplicated a spell of 8th level or lower? No stress. (2) Did anything else with wish? Stress. #DnD
A normal reading of the rules you already quote also specify "any effect other than duplicating a spell" so I think it is very clear that this is the case
answered Aug 7 at 15:46
Sdjz
7,54933676
I know it's a common phrase on this site, but for good reason: Spells do what they say. Adding that in wouldn't hurt this already good answer.
– lucasvw
Aug 7 at 15:57
3
Looks like i need to apologize to my DM.
– MikeTheBard
Aug 7 at 18:52
Basically, the "suggested uses" are simply something the spell can definitely do; anything beyond that requires GM approval. The suggested uses other than duplicating a lower-level spell still cause the negative side effects.
– V2Blast
Aug 7 at 18:56
add a comment |Â
up vote
29
down vote
accepted
You will still get stress
Jeremy Crawford has clarified exactly this in this tweet:
Wish spell: (1) Duplicated a spell of 8th level or lower? No stress. (2) Did anything else with wish? Stress. #DnD
A normal reading of the rules you already quote also specify "any effect other than duplicating a spell" so I think it is very clear that this is the case
answered Aug 7 at 15:46
Sdjz
7,54933676
I know it's a common phrase on this site, but for good reason: Spells do what they say. Adding that in wouldn't hurt this already good answer.
– lucasvw
Aug 7 at 15:57
3
Looks like i need to apologize to my DM.
– MikeTheBard
Aug 7 at 18:52
Basically, the "suggested uses" are simply something the spell can definitely do; anything beyond that requires GM approval. The suggested uses other than duplicating a lower-level spell still cause the negative side effects.
– V2Blast
Aug 7 at 18:56
add a comment |Â
up vote
29
down vote
accepted
up vote
29
down vote
accepted
You will still get stress
Jeremy Crawford has clarified exactly this in this tweet:
Wish spell: (1) Duplicated a spell of 8th level or lower? No stress. (2) Did anything else with wish? Stress. #DnD
A normal reading of the rules you already quote also specify "any effect other than duplicating a spell" so I think it is very clear that this is the case
answered Aug 7 at 15:46
Sdjz
7,54933676
You will still get stress
Jeremy Crawford has clarified exactly this in this tweet:
Wish spell: (1) Duplicated a spell of 8th level or lower? No stress. (2) Did anything else with wish? Stress. #DnD
A normal reading of the rules you already quote also specify "any effect other than duplicating a spell" so I think it is very clear that this is the case
answered Aug 7 at 15:46
Sdjz
7,54933676
answered Aug 7 at 15:46
Sdjz
7,54933676
answered Aug 7 at 15:46
Sdjz
7,54933676
answered Aug 7 at 15:46
Sdjz
7,54933676
7,54933676
I know it's a common phrase on this site, but for good reason: Spells do what they say. Adding that in wouldn't hurt this already good answer.
– lucasvw
Aug 7 at 15:57
3
Looks like i need to apologize to my DM.
– MikeTheBard
Aug 7 at 18:52
Basically, the "suggested uses" are simply something the spell can definitely do; anything beyond that requires GM approval. The suggested uses other than duplicating a lower-level spell still cause the negative side effects.
– V2Blast
Aug 7 at 18:56
add a comment |Â
I know it's a common phrase on this site, but for good reason: Spells do what they say. Adding that in wouldn't hurt this already good answer.
– lucasvw
Aug 7 at 15:57
3
Looks like i need to apologize to my DM.
– MikeTheBard
Aug 7 at 18:52
Basically, the "suggested uses" are simply something the spell can definitely do; anything beyond that requires GM approval. The suggested uses other than duplicating a lower-level spell still cause the negative side effects.
– V2Blast
Aug 7 at 18:56
I know it's a common phrase on this site, but for good reason: Spells do what they say. Adding that in wouldn't hurt this already good answer.
– lucasvw
Aug 7 at 15:57
I know it's a common phrase on this site, but for good reason: Spells do what they say. Adding that in wouldn't hurt this already good answer.
– lucasvw
Aug 7 at 15:57
3
3
Looks like i need to apologize to my DM.
– MikeTheBard
Aug 7 at 18:52
Looks like i need to apologize to my DM.
– MikeTheBard
Aug 7 at 18:52
Basically, the "suggested uses" are simply something the spell can definitely do; anything beyond that requires GM approval. The suggested uses other than duplicating a lower-level spell still cause the negative side effects.
– V2Blast
Aug 7 at 18:56
Basically, the "suggested uses" are simply something the spell can definitely do; anything beyond that requires GM approval. The suggested uses other than duplicating a lower-level spell still cause the negative side effects.
– V2Blast
Aug 7 at 18:56
add a comment |Â
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5e wizard retirement plan: 1) get to lv 17. 2) learn Wish. 3) sell 1/day clone vessels for half price (discard clone consciously).
– Mindwin
Aug 7 at 18:00