Installing Ubuntu without touching Windows

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I have a PC with 5 hard drives (SSD and HDD). One of the drives has Windows 10. In the past, I have tried to install Ubuntu and Windows using the following method so there will be no interference between the two operating systems:



I Simply removed all the hard drives, except the one that I wanted to install Ubuntu, then install ubuntu and connect other hard drives. Then select the boot drive using the BIOS.



Can I do the same thing without taking out taking all the drives?



I mean I do not like to see the GRUB on boot, I want windows to boot as default without the need for GRUB.







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  • It is rather straightforward to install Ubuntu without touching Windows and its boot system in BIOS mode (alias CSM alias legacy mode). But in UEFI mode, the system does not obey your instructions and will tamper with the UEFI boot system, that is used by Windows. So in UEFI mode you must disconnect the other drives in order to avoid interference with Windows. You can use the instructions at this link (even if you intend to install Ubuntu into an internal drive), Boot Ubuntu from external drive
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  • Depending on your computer you could probably disconnect the extra drives from BIOS settings instead of removing them physically. Check anything related to SATA ports in your BIOS settings
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    May 18 at 21:03














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I have a PC with 5 hard drives (SSD and HDD). One of the drives has Windows 10. In the past, I have tried to install Ubuntu and Windows using the following method so there will be no interference between the two operating systems:



I Simply removed all the hard drives, except the one that I wanted to install Ubuntu, then install ubuntu and connect other hard drives. Then select the boot drive using the BIOS.



Can I do the same thing without taking out taking all the drives?



I mean I do not like to see the GRUB on boot, I want windows to boot as default without the need for GRUB.







share|improve this question




















  • It is rather straightforward to install Ubuntu without touching Windows and its boot system in BIOS mode (alias CSM alias legacy mode). But in UEFI mode, the system does not obey your instructions and will tamper with the UEFI boot system, that is used by Windows. So in UEFI mode you must disconnect the other drives in order to avoid interference with Windows. You can use the instructions at this link (even if you intend to install Ubuntu into an internal drive), Boot Ubuntu from external drive
    – sudodus
    May 18 at 20:50










  • Depending on your computer you could probably disconnect the extra drives from BIOS settings instead of removing them physically. Check anything related to SATA ports in your BIOS settings
    – Eskander Bejaoui
    May 18 at 21:03












up vote
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up vote
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down vote

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I have a PC with 5 hard drives (SSD and HDD). One of the drives has Windows 10. In the past, I have tried to install Ubuntu and Windows using the following method so there will be no interference between the two operating systems:



I Simply removed all the hard drives, except the one that I wanted to install Ubuntu, then install ubuntu and connect other hard drives. Then select the boot drive using the BIOS.



Can I do the same thing without taking out taking all the drives?



I mean I do not like to see the GRUB on boot, I want windows to boot as default without the need for GRUB.







share|improve this question












I have a PC with 5 hard drives (SSD and HDD). One of the drives has Windows 10. In the past, I have tried to install Ubuntu and Windows using the following method so there will be no interference between the two operating systems:



I Simply removed all the hard drives, except the one that I wanted to install Ubuntu, then install ubuntu and connect other hard drives. Then select the boot drive using the BIOS.



Can I do the same thing without taking out taking all the drives?



I mean I do not like to see the GRUB on boot, I want windows to boot as default without the need for GRUB.









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  • It is rather straightforward to install Ubuntu without touching Windows and its boot system in BIOS mode (alias CSM alias legacy mode). But in UEFI mode, the system does not obey your instructions and will tamper with the UEFI boot system, that is used by Windows. So in UEFI mode you must disconnect the other drives in order to avoid interference with Windows. You can use the instructions at this link (even if you intend to install Ubuntu into an internal drive), Boot Ubuntu from external drive
    – sudodus
    May 18 at 20:50










  • Depending on your computer you could probably disconnect the extra drives from BIOS settings instead of removing them physically. Check anything related to SATA ports in your BIOS settings
    – Eskander Bejaoui
    May 18 at 21:03
















  • It is rather straightforward to install Ubuntu without touching Windows and its boot system in BIOS mode (alias CSM alias legacy mode). But in UEFI mode, the system does not obey your instructions and will tamper with the UEFI boot system, that is used by Windows. So in UEFI mode you must disconnect the other drives in order to avoid interference with Windows. You can use the instructions at this link (even if you intend to install Ubuntu into an internal drive), Boot Ubuntu from external drive
    – sudodus
    May 18 at 20:50










  • Depending on your computer you could probably disconnect the extra drives from BIOS settings instead of removing them physically. Check anything related to SATA ports in your BIOS settings
    – Eskander Bejaoui
    May 18 at 21:03















It is rather straightforward to install Ubuntu without touching Windows and its boot system in BIOS mode (alias CSM alias legacy mode). But in UEFI mode, the system does not obey your instructions and will tamper with the UEFI boot system, that is used by Windows. So in UEFI mode you must disconnect the other drives in order to avoid interference with Windows. You can use the instructions at this link (even if you intend to install Ubuntu into an internal drive), Boot Ubuntu from external drive
– sudodus
May 18 at 20:50




It is rather straightforward to install Ubuntu without touching Windows and its boot system in BIOS mode (alias CSM alias legacy mode). But in UEFI mode, the system does not obey your instructions and will tamper with the UEFI boot system, that is used by Windows. So in UEFI mode you must disconnect the other drives in order to avoid interference with Windows. You can use the instructions at this link (even if you intend to install Ubuntu into an internal drive), Boot Ubuntu from external drive
– sudodus
May 18 at 20:50












Depending on your computer you could probably disconnect the extra drives from BIOS settings instead of removing them physically. Check anything related to SATA ports in your BIOS settings
– Eskander Bejaoui
May 18 at 21:03




Depending on your computer you could probably disconnect the extra drives from BIOS settings instead of removing them physically. Check anything related to SATA ports in your BIOS settings
– Eskander Bejaoui
May 18 at 21:03










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Yes you can use the same method as before



That is:



Step 1: Disconnect all the hard drives except the one you want to install Ubuntu in.



Step 2: Install Ubuntu



Step 3: Reconnect all the other hard drives.



If you don't want to open the computer and disconnect the drives, that is fine too. Just be careful when you select the drives. See Guilherme's answer below about using "Something else..." option and "Location for bootloader (GRUB) installation". In particular, the Grub, also known as the bootloader, goes in the same drive as Ubuntu.



There are a few things you need to keep in mind if this is the first time you are using an UEFI/GPT system.



Point 1: Make sure the Installation media or the Live DVD/USB you install Ubuntu from boots in the UEFI mode, not the Legacy mode.



When you boot the Install USB/DVD in UEFI mode you will see a Grub based menu with



enter image description here



If the install USB/DVD boots in the Legacy mode, you will see a graphical page with the these choices:



enter image description here



I assume Windows is installed in the UEFI mode, not Legacy BIOS mode in the other hard drive. If you have Windows in UEFI and Ubuntu in Legacy modes, then every time you want to switch OS you will have to get into UEFI settings and change mode and reboot.



Point 2: Use Guided Partition Table (GPT) in the drive you install Ubuntu. This may not be necessary, but UEFI and GPT goes hand in hand, and having MBR (Master Boot Record) based partition table, may cause issues.



If you plan to use the default installation method for Ubuntu and use the whole drive, then you don't need to worry about partition schemes. Ubuntu will do everything needed.



Done



If you prefer to do your own partitioning then there is one more thing...



Point 3: You need to create an extra partition needed for UEFI. This has to be a primary partition in FAT32 format of size between 100MB to 500MB. It must have the esp and boot flags set. You may want to make it the first partition. The mount point for this partition must be /boot/efi.



You can partition the rest of the drive as you please. The default option would be to partition the rest of the drive as a single ext4 formatted partition with mount point /. Most recent versions of Ubuntu use a swap file instead of a linux-swap partition. So, you may want to skip that. You may use other partition schemes if you know what you are doing.



Hope this helps






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    I've never installed ubuntu X windows in different HD's, but I think if you, in the installation, check the option "Something else" in the "Installation Type" screen (image 1), you'll be redirected to the partitions screen (image 2).



    In the partitions screen, select the HD you want to install ubuntu (indicated in the image).



    After that, continue with the installation and be happy!



    image 1



    image 2






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    • You have to create an ext4 partition with mount point at "/", and another at "/home" (I don't know if "/home" is necessary anymore). You can, but not necessary, create a swap partition. For more information, feel free to check askubuntu.com/questions/343268/… . It isn't any secret to manually partition the disks on install.
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    Yes you can use the same method as before



    That is:



    Step 1: Disconnect all the hard drives except the one you want to install Ubuntu in.



    Step 2: Install Ubuntu



    Step 3: Reconnect all the other hard drives.



    If you don't want to open the computer and disconnect the drives, that is fine too. Just be careful when you select the drives. See Guilherme's answer below about using "Something else..." option and "Location for bootloader (GRUB) installation". In particular, the Grub, also known as the bootloader, goes in the same drive as Ubuntu.



    There are a few things you need to keep in mind if this is the first time you are using an UEFI/GPT system.



    Point 1: Make sure the Installation media or the Live DVD/USB you install Ubuntu from boots in the UEFI mode, not the Legacy mode.



    When you boot the Install USB/DVD in UEFI mode you will see a Grub based menu with



    enter image description here



    If the install USB/DVD boots in the Legacy mode, you will see a graphical page with the these choices:



    enter image description here



    I assume Windows is installed in the UEFI mode, not Legacy BIOS mode in the other hard drive. If you have Windows in UEFI and Ubuntu in Legacy modes, then every time you want to switch OS you will have to get into UEFI settings and change mode and reboot.



    Point 2: Use Guided Partition Table (GPT) in the drive you install Ubuntu. This may not be necessary, but UEFI and GPT goes hand in hand, and having MBR (Master Boot Record) based partition table, may cause issues.



    If you plan to use the default installation method for Ubuntu and use the whole drive, then you don't need to worry about partition schemes. Ubuntu will do everything needed.



    Done



    If you prefer to do your own partitioning then there is one more thing...



    Point 3: You need to create an extra partition needed for UEFI. This has to be a primary partition in FAT32 format of size between 100MB to 500MB. It must have the esp and boot flags set. You may want to make it the first partition. The mount point for this partition must be /boot/efi.



    You can partition the rest of the drive as you please. The default option would be to partition the rest of the drive as a single ext4 formatted partition with mount point /. Most recent versions of Ubuntu use a swap file instead of a linux-swap partition. So, you may want to skip that. You may use other partition schemes if you know what you are doing.



    Hope this helps






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      Yes you can use the same method as before



      That is:



      Step 1: Disconnect all the hard drives except the one you want to install Ubuntu in.



      Step 2: Install Ubuntu



      Step 3: Reconnect all the other hard drives.



      If you don't want to open the computer and disconnect the drives, that is fine too. Just be careful when you select the drives. See Guilherme's answer below about using "Something else..." option and "Location for bootloader (GRUB) installation". In particular, the Grub, also known as the bootloader, goes in the same drive as Ubuntu.



      There are a few things you need to keep in mind if this is the first time you are using an UEFI/GPT system.



      Point 1: Make sure the Installation media or the Live DVD/USB you install Ubuntu from boots in the UEFI mode, not the Legacy mode.



      When you boot the Install USB/DVD in UEFI mode you will see a Grub based menu with



      enter image description here



      If the install USB/DVD boots in the Legacy mode, you will see a graphical page with the these choices:



      enter image description here



      I assume Windows is installed in the UEFI mode, not Legacy BIOS mode in the other hard drive. If you have Windows in UEFI and Ubuntu in Legacy modes, then every time you want to switch OS you will have to get into UEFI settings and change mode and reboot.



      Point 2: Use Guided Partition Table (GPT) in the drive you install Ubuntu. This may not be necessary, but UEFI and GPT goes hand in hand, and having MBR (Master Boot Record) based partition table, may cause issues.



      If you plan to use the default installation method for Ubuntu and use the whole drive, then you don't need to worry about partition schemes. Ubuntu will do everything needed.



      Done



      If you prefer to do your own partitioning then there is one more thing...



      Point 3: You need to create an extra partition needed for UEFI. This has to be a primary partition in FAT32 format of size between 100MB to 500MB. It must have the esp and boot flags set. You may want to make it the first partition. The mount point for this partition must be /boot/efi.



      You can partition the rest of the drive as you please. The default option would be to partition the rest of the drive as a single ext4 formatted partition with mount point /. Most recent versions of Ubuntu use a swap file instead of a linux-swap partition. So, you may want to skip that. You may use other partition schemes if you know what you are doing.



      Hope this helps






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        up vote
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        up vote
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        Yes you can use the same method as before



        That is:



        Step 1: Disconnect all the hard drives except the one you want to install Ubuntu in.



        Step 2: Install Ubuntu



        Step 3: Reconnect all the other hard drives.



        If you don't want to open the computer and disconnect the drives, that is fine too. Just be careful when you select the drives. See Guilherme's answer below about using "Something else..." option and "Location for bootloader (GRUB) installation". In particular, the Grub, also known as the bootloader, goes in the same drive as Ubuntu.



        There are a few things you need to keep in mind if this is the first time you are using an UEFI/GPT system.



        Point 1: Make sure the Installation media or the Live DVD/USB you install Ubuntu from boots in the UEFI mode, not the Legacy mode.



        When you boot the Install USB/DVD in UEFI mode you will see a Grub based menu with



        enter image description here



        If the install USB/DVD boots in the Legacy mode, you will see a graphical page with the these choices:



        enter image description here



        I assume Windows is installed in the UEFI mode, not Legacy BIOS mode in the other hard drive. If you have Windows in UEFI and Ubuntu in Legacy modes, then every time you want to switch OS you will have to get into UEFI settings and change mode and reboot.



        Point 2: Use Guided Partition Table (GPT) in the drive you install Ubuntu. This may not be necessary, but UEFI and GPT goes hand in hand, and having MBR (Master Boot Record) based partition table, may cause issues.



        If you plan to use the default installation method for Ubuntu and use the whole drive, then you don't need to worry about partition schemes. Ubuntu will do everything needed.



        Done



        If you prefer to do your own partitioning then there is one more thing...



        Point 3: You need to create an extra partition needed for UEFI. This has to be a primary partition in FAT32 format of size between 100MB to 500MB. It must have the esp and boot flags set. You may want to make it the first partition. The mount point for this partition must be /boot/efi.



        You can partition the rest of the drive as you please. The default option would be to partition the rest of the drive as a single ext4 formatted partition with mount point /. Most recent versions of Ubuntu use a swap file instead of a linux-swap partition. So, you may want to skip that. You may use other partition schemes if you know what you are doing.



        Hope this helps






        share|improve this answer














        Yes you can use the same method as before



        That is:



        Step 1: Disconnect all the hard drives except the one you want to install Ubuntu in.



        Step 2: Install Ubuntu



        Step 3: Reconnect all the other hard drives.



        If you don't want to open the computer and disconnect the drives, that is fine too. Just be careful when you select the drives. See Guilherme's answer below about using "Something else..." option and "Location for bootloader (GRUB) installation". In particular, the Grub, also known as the bootloader, goes in the same drive as Ubuntu.



        There are a few things you need to keep in mind if this is the first time you are using an UEFI/GPT system.



        Point 1: Make sure the Installation media or the Live DVD/USB you install Ubuntu from boots in the UEFI mode, not the Legacy mode.



        When you boot the Install USB/DVD in UEFI mode you will see a Grub based menu with



        enter image description here



        If the install USB/DVD boots in the Legacy mode, you will see a graphical page with the these choices:



        enter image description here



        I assume Windows is installed in the UEFI mode, not Legacy BIOS mode in the other hard drive. If you have Windows in UEFI and Ubuntu in Legacy modes, then every time you want to switch OS you will have to get into UEFI settings and change mode and reboot.



        Point 2: Use Guided Partition Table (GPT) in the drive you install Ubuntu. This may not be necessary, but UEFI and GPT goes hand in hand, and having MBR (Master Boot Record) based partition table, may cause issues.



        If you plan to use the default installation method for Ubuntu and use the whole drive, then you don't need to worry about partition schemes. Ubuntu will do everything needed.



        Done



        If you prefer to do your own partitioning then there is one more thing...



        Point 3: You need to create an extra partition needed for UEFI. This has to be a primary partition in FAT32 format of size between 100MB to 500MB. It must have the esp and boot flags set. You may want to make it the first partition. The mount point for this partition must be /boot/efi.



        You can partition the rest of the drive as you please. The default option would be to partition the rest of the drive as a single ext4 formatted partition with mount point /. Most recent versions of Ubuntu use a swap file instead of a linux-swap partition. So, you may want to skip that. You may use other partition schemes if you know what you are doing.



        Hope this helps







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            I've never installed ubuntu X windows in different HD's, but I think if you, in the installation, check the option "Something else" in the "Installation Type" screen (image 1), you'll be redirected to the partitions screen (image 2).



            In the partitions screen, select the HD you want to install ubuntu (indicated in the image).



            After that, continue with the installation and be happy!



            image 1



            image 2






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            • You have to create an ext4 partition with mount point at "/", and another at "/home" (I don't know if "/home" is necessary anymore). You can, but not necessary, create a swap partition. For more information, feel free to check askubuntu.com/questions/343268/… . It isn't any secret to manually partition the disks on install.
              – Guilherme Romão
              May 18 at 19:18














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            I've never installed ubuntu X windows in different HD's, but I think if you, in the installation, check the option "Something else" in the "Installation Type" screen (image 1), you'll be redirected to the partitions screen (image 2).



            In the partitions screen, select the HD you want to install ubuntu (indicated in the image).



            After that, continue with the installation and be happy!



            image 1



            image 2






            share|improve this answer




















            • You have to create an ext4 partition with mount point at "/", and another at "/home" (I don't know if "/home" is necessary anymore). You can, but not necessary, create a swap partition. For more information, feel free to check askubuntu.com/questions/343268/… . It isn't any secret to manually partition the disks on install.
              – Guilherme Romão
              May 18 at 19:18












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            I've never installed ubuntu X windows in different HD's, but I think if you, in the installation, check the option "Something else" in the "Installation Type" screen (image 1), you'll be redirected to the partitions screen (image 2).



            In the partitions screen, select the HD you want to install ubuntu (indicated in the image).



            After that, continue with the installation and be happy!



            image 1



            image 2






            share|improve this answer












            I've never installed ubuntu X windows in different HD's, but I think if you, in the installation, check the option "Something else" in the "Installation Type" screen (image 1), you'll be redirected to the partitions screen (image 2).



            In the partitions screen, select the HD you want to install ubuntu (indicated in the image).



            After that, continue with the installation and be happy!



            image 1



            image 2







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            • You have to create an ext4 partition with mount point at "/", and another at "/home" (I don't know if "/home" is necessary anymore). You can, but not necessary, create a swap partition. For more information, feel free to check askubuntu.com/questions/343268/… . It isn't any secret to manually partition the disks on install.
              – Guilherme Romão
              May 18 at 19:18
















            • You have to create an ext4 partition with mount point at "/", and another at "/home" (I don't know if "/home" is necessary anymore). You can, but not necessary, create a swap partition. For more information, feel free to check askubuntu.com/questions/343268/… . It isn't any secret to manually partition the disks on install.
              – Guilherme Romão
              May 18 at 19:18















            You have to create an ext4 partition with mount point at "/", and another at "/home" (I don't know if "/home" is necessary anymore). You can, but not necessary, create a swap partition. For more information, feel free to check askubuntu.com/questions/343268/… . It isn't any secret to manually partition the disks on install.
            – Guilherme Romão
            May 18 at 19:18




            You have to create an ext4 partition with mount point at "/", and another at "/home" (I don't know if "/home" is necessary anymore). You can, but not necessary, create a swap partition. For more information, feel free to check askubuntu.com/questions/343268/… . It isn't any secret to manually partition the disks on install.
            – Guilherme Romão
            May 18 at 19:18












             

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