Installing 17.10.1 from USB doesn't progress
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On an old netbook (IdeaPad with an Atom 455(?) CPU and 1Â GB memory), 17.10.1 runs fine off the USB stick, but it won't install from the stick.
I get the blue 'dot' screen after a while, hours go by, nothing happens, and it doesn't appear to touch the disk at all. Any suggestions? Should I try installing from DVD instead?
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On an old netbook (IdeaPad with an Atom 455(?) CPU and 1Â GB memory), 17.10.1 runs fine off the USB stick, but it won't install from the stick.
I get the blue 'dot' screen after a while, hours go by, nothing happens, and it doesn't appear to touch the disk at all. Any suggestions? Should I try installing from DVD instead?
boot system-installation usb
edited Jan 30 at 16:20
Peter Mortensen
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asked Jan 28 at 10:28
Matt K
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Are you trying to install standard Ubuntu or one of the community flavours? I think a netbook with an Atom processor will work better with a community flavour with a lighter desktop environment, Lubuntu, Ubuntu Budgie, Ubuntu MATE or Xubuntu. Try them live and select the flavour that you like best. -- Please tell us with as many details as possible, what program is running and whathappens (what you see and hear) before 'nothing happens'. -- Please tell us also the full brand name and model of your netbook. Knowing more about it will help us help you.
– sudodus
Jan 28 at 10:34
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Also, please check with md5sum that the iso file was downloaded correctly, help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes ; Which tool did you use to create the USB boot stick? It should be as reliable to boot from USB as from DVD.
– sudodus
Jan 28 at 10:36
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I'd agree with sudodus; check md5sum to ensure download correct, but the following link (stuff about --force-pae) is a MUST READ. If you have an Atom N455 (& a few other atoms of that era) the CPU has bugs that cause PAE to report incorrectly & inconsistently. You thus need toforcepae --force-pae. help.ubuntu.com/community/… I'd also suggest using Lubuntu (I've had better results with lubuntu on 2005-2008 atoms)
– guiverc
Jan 28 at 11:55
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Installing Lubuntu 17.10.1, which worked fine from the USB thumb drive when I ran it on the machine. Used the Universal USB installer 1.9.8.0 to create the USB image.. As it runs, I think I see a dialog mentioning 'pae' in it, but it flashes by pretty fast, will try that next. Question is, why does it run fine off the USB stick if there's a PAE problem, but not install? The system is a Lenovo 0647 Ideapad, per the tag on the back. Thanks for all the replies
– Matt K
Jan 28 at 12:23
You can run the commandgrep -i pae /proc/cpuinfoand if there is output (some line(s) containing 'pae') you need not worry aboutforcepae. (I think you need not worry about it.) The problem with Ubuntu earlier might be that there is not enough RAM, but Lubuntu can manage with the available RAM. There might also be problems, that the graphics hardware cannot manage the demands of (standard) Ubuntu, while Lubuntu's LXDE desktop environment works well with old and weak hardware. Have you tried to install Lubuntu yet?
– sudodus
Jan 28 at 12:39
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On an old netbook (IdeaPad with an Atom 455(?) CPU and 1Â GB memory), 17.10.1 runs fine off the USB stick, but it won't install from the stick.
I get the blue 'dot' screen after a while, hours go by, nothing happens, and it doesn't appear to touch the disk at all. Any suggestions? Should I try installing from DVD instead?
boot system-installation usb
edited Jan 30 at 16:20
Peter Mortensen
1,03821016
asked Jan 28 at 10:28
Matt K
1
On an old netbook (IdeaPad with an Atom 455(?) CPU and 1Â GB memory), 17.10.1 runs fine off the USB stick, but it won't install from the stick.
I get the blue 'dot' screen after a while, hours go by, nothing happens, and it doesn't appear to touch the disk at all. Any suggestions? Should I try installing from DVD instead?
boot system-installation usb
boot system-installation usb
edited Jan 30 at 16:20
Peter Mortensen
1,03821016
asked Jan 28 at 10:28
Matt K
1
edited Jan 30 at 16:20
Peter Mortensen
1,03821016
asked Jan 28 at 10:28
Matt K
1
edited Jan 30 at 16:20
Peter Mortensen
1,03821016
edited Jan 30 at 16:20
Peter Mortensen
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edited Jan 30 at 16:20
Peter Mortensen
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1,03821016
asked Jan 28 at 10:28
Matt K
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asked Jan 28 at 10:28
Matt K
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asked Jan 28 at 10:28
Matt K
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Are you trying to install standard Ubuntu or one of the community flavours? I think a netbook with an Atom processor will work better with a community flavour with a lighter desktop environment, Lubuntu, Ubuntu Budgie, Ubuntu MATE or Xubuntu. Try them live and select the flavour that you like best. -- Please tell us with as many details as possible, what program is running and whathappens (what you see and hear) before 'nothing happens'. -- Please tell us also the full brand name and model of your netbook. Knowing more about it will help us help you.
– sudodus
Jan 28 at 10:34
1
Also, please check with md5sum that the iso file was downloaded correctly, help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes ; Which tool did you use to create the USB boot stick? It should be as reliable to boot from USB as from DVD.
– sudodus
Jan 28 at 10:36
1
I'd agree with sudodus; check md5sum to ensure download correct, but the following link (stuff about --force-pae) is a MUST READ. If you have an Atom N455 (& a few other atoms of that era) the CPU has bugs that cause PAE to report incorrectly & inconsistently. You thus need toforcepae --force-pae. help.ubuntu.com/community/… I'd also suggest using Lubuntu (I've had better results with lubuntu on 2005-2008 atoms)
– guiverc
Jan 28 at 11:55
1
Installing Lubuntu 17.10.1, which worked fine from the USB thumb drive when I ran it on the machine. Used the Universal USB installer 1.9.8.0 to create the USB image.. As it runs, I think I see a dialog mentioning 'pae' in it, but it flashes by pretty fast, will try that next. Question is, why does it run fine off the USB stick if there's a PAE problem, but not install? The system is a Lenovo 0647 Ideapad, per the tag on the back. Thanks for all the replies
– Matt K
Jan 28 at 12:23
You can run the commandgrep -i pae /proc/cpuinfoand if there is output (some line(s) containing 'pae') you need not worry aboutforcepae. (I think you need not worry about it.) The problem with Ubuntu earlier might be that there is not enough RAM, but Lubuntu can manage with the available RAM. There might also be problems, that the graphics hardware cannot manage the demands of (standard) Ubuntu, while Lubuntu's LXDE desktop environment works well with old and weak hardware. Have you tried to install Lubuntu yet?
– sudodus
Jan 28 at 12:39
 |Â
show 5 more comments
Are you trying to install standard Ubuntu or one of the community flavours? I think a netbook with an Atom processor will work better with a community flavour with a lighter desktop environment, Lubuntu, Ubuntu Budgie, Ubuntu MATE or Xubuntu. Try them live and select the flavour that you like best. -- Please tell us with as many details as possible, what program is running and whathappens (what you see and hear) before 'nothing happens'. -- Please tell us also the full brand name and model of your netbook. Knowing more about it will help us help you.
– sudodus
Jan 28 at 10:34
1
Also, please check with md5sum that the iso file was downloaded correctly, help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes ; Which tool did you use to create the USB boot stick? It should be as reliable to boot from USB as from DVD.
– sudodus
Jan 28 at 10:36
1
I'd agree with sudodus; check md5sum to ensure download correct, but the following link (stuff about --force-pae) is a MUST READ. If you have an Atom N455 (& a few other atoms of that era) the CPU has bugs that cause PAE to report incorrectly & inconsistently. You thus need toforcepae --force-pae. help.ubuntu.com/community/… I'd also suggest using Lubuntu (I've had better results with lubuntu on 2005-2008 atoms)
– guiverc
Jan 28 at 11:55
1
Installing Lubuntu 17.10.1, which worked fine from the USB thumb drive when I ran it on the machine. Used the Universal USB installer 1.9.8.0 to create the USB image.. As it runs, I think I see a dialog mentioning 'pae' in it, but it flashes by pretty fast, will try that next. Question is, why does it run fine off the USB stick if there's a PAE problem, but not install? The system is a Lenovo 0647 Ideapad, per the tag on the back. Thanks for all the replies
– Matt K
Jan 28 at 12:23
You can run the commandgrep -i pae /proc/cpuinfoand if there is output (some line(s) containing 'pae') you need not worry aboutforcepae. (I think you need not worry about it.) The problem with Ubuntu earlier might be that there is not enough RAM, but Lubuntu can manage with the available RAM. There might also be problems, that the graphics hardware cannot manage the demands of (standard) Ubuntu, while Lubuntu's LXDE desktop environment works well with old and weak hardware. Have you tried to install Lubuntu yet?
– sudodus
Jan 28 at 12:39
Are you trying to install standard Ubuntu or one of the community flavours? I think a netbook with an Atom processor will work better with a community flavour with a lighter desktop environment, Lubuntu, Ubuntu Budgie, Ubuntu MATE or Xubuntu. Try them live and select the flavour that you like best. -- Please tell us with as many details as possible, what program is running and whathappens (what you see and hear) before 'nothing happens'. -- Please tell us also the full brand name and model of your netbook. Knowing more about it will help us help you.
– sudodus
Jan 28 at 10:34
Are you trying to install standard Ubuntu or one of the community flavours? I think a netbook with an Atom processor will work better with a community flavour with a lighter desktop environment, Lubuntu, Ubuntu Budgie, Ubuntu MATE or Xubuntu. Try them live and select the flavour that you like best. -- Please tell us with as many details as possible, what program is running and whathappens (what you see and hear) before 'nothing happens'. -- Please tell us also the full brand name and model of your netbook. Knowing more about it will help us help you.
– sudodus
Jan 28 at 10:34
1
1
Also, please check with md5sum that the iso file was downloaded correctly, help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes ; Which tool did you use to create the USB boot stick? It should be as reliable to boot from USB as from DVD.
– sudodus
Jan 28 at 10:36
Also, please check with md5sum that the iso file was downloaded correctly, help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes ; Which tool did you use to create the USB boot stick? It should be as reliable to boot from USB as from DVD.
– sudodus
Jan 28 at 10:36
1
1
I'd agree with sudodus; check md5sum to ensure download correct, but the following link (stuff about --force-pae) is a MUST READ. If you have an Atom N455 (& a few other atoms of that era) the CPU has bugs that cause PAE to report incorrectly & inconsistently. You thus need to
forcepae --force-pae. help.ubuntu.com/community/… I'd also suggest using Lubuntu (I've had better results with lubuntu on 2005-2008 atoms)– guiverc
Jan 28 at 11:55
I'd agree with sudodus; check md5sum to ensure download correct, but the following link (stuff about --force-pae) is a MUST READ. If you have an Atom N455 (& a few other atoms of that era) the CPU has bugs that cause PAE to report incorrectly & inconsistently. You thus need to
forcepae --force-pae. help.ubuntu.com/community/… I'd also suggest using Lubuntu (I've had better results with lubuntu on 2005-2008 atoms)– guiverc
Jan 28 at 11:55
1
1
Installing Lubuntu 17.10.1, which worked fine from the USB thumb drive when I ran it on the machine. Used the Universal USB installer 1.9.8.0 to create the USB image.. As it runs, I think I see a dialog mentioning 'pae' in it, but it flashes by pretty fast, will try that next. Question is, why does it run fine off the USB stick if there's a PAE problem, but not install? The system is a Lenovo 0647 Ideapad, per the tag on the back. Thanks for all the replies
– Matt K
Jan 28 at 12:23
Installing Lubuntu 17.10.1, which worked fine from the USB thumb drive when I ran it on the machine. Used the Universal USB installer 1.9.8.0 to create the USB image.. As it runs, I think I see a dialog mentioning 'pae' in it, but it flashes by pretty fast, will try that next. Question is, why does it run fine off the USB stick if there's a PAE problem, but not install? The system is a Lenovo 0647 Ideapad, per the tag on the back. Thanks for all the replies
– Matt K
Jan 28 at 12:23
You can run the command
grep -i pae /proc/cpuinfo and if there is output (some line(s) containing 'pae') you need not worry about forcepae. (I think you need not worry about it.) The problem with Ubuntu earlier might be that there is not enough RAM, but Lubuntu can manage with the available RAM. There might also be problems, that the graphics hardware cannot manage the demands of (standard) Ubuntu, while Lubuntu's LXDE desktop environment works well with old and weak hardware. Have you tried to install Lubuntu yet?– sudodus
Jan 28 at 12:39
You can run the command
grep -i pae /proc/cpuinfo and if there is output (some line(s) containing 'pae') you need not worry about forcepae. (I think you need not worry about it.) The problem with Ubuntu earlier might be that there is not enough RAM, but Lubuntu can manage with the available RAM. There might also be problems, that the graphics hardware cannot manage the demands of (standard) Ubuntu, while Lubuntu's LXDE desktop environment works well with old and weak hardware. Have you tried to install Lubuntu yet?– sudodus
Jan 28 at 12:39
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Are you trying to install standard Ubuntu or one of the community flavours? I think a netbook with an Atom processor will work better with a community flavour with a lighter desktop environment, Lubuntu, Ubuntu Budgie, Ubuntu MATE or Xubuntu. Try them live and select the flavour that you like best. -- Please tell us with as many details as possible, what program is running and whathappens (what you see and hear) before 'nothing happens'. -- Please tell us also the full brand name and model of your netbook. Knowing more about it will help us help you.
– sudodus
Jan 28 at 10:34
1
Also, please check with md5sum that the iso file was downloaded correctly, help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes ; Which tool did you use to create the USB boot stick? It should be as reliable to boot from USB as from DVD.
– sudodus
Jan 28 at 10:36
1
I'd agree with sudodus; check md5sum to ensure download correct, but the following link (stuff about --force-pae) is a MUST READ. If you have an Atom N455 (& a few other atoms of that era) the CPU has bugs that cause PAE to report incorrectly & inconsistently. You thus need to
forcepae --force-pae. help.ubuntu.com/community/… I'd also suggest using Lubuntu (I've had better results with lubuntu on 2005-2008 atoms)– guiverc
Jan 28 at 11:55
1
Installing Lubuntu 17.10.1, which worked fine from the USB thumb drive when I ran it on the machine. Used the Universal USB installer 1.9.8.0 to create the USB image.. As it runs, I think I see a dialog mentioning 'pae' in it, but it flashes by pretty fast, will try that next. Question is, why does it run fine off the USB stick if there's a PAE problem, but not install? The system is a Lenovo 0647 Ideapad, per the tag on the back. Thanks for all the replies
– Matt K
Jan 28 at 12:23
You can run the command
grep -i pae /proc/cpuinfoand if there is output (some line(s) containing 'pae') you need not worry aboutforcepae. (I think you need not worry about it.) The problem with Ubuntu earlier might be that there is not enough RAM, but Lubuntu can manage with the available RAM. There might also be problems, that the graphics hardware cannot manage the demands of (standard) Ubuntu, while Lubuntu's LXDE desktop environment works well with old and weak hardware. Have you tried to install Lubuntu yet?– sudodus
Jan 28 at 12:39