gparted ntfs partition mountable but can't resize

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Trying to dual-boot install 18.04 on a machine with Windows 10 already installed. The installer didn't give me the option to shrink windows and dual-boot, so I went to manually repartition.



I tried to shrink the existing Windows 10 NTFS partition in gparted but there's an exclamation mark with a warning.



gparted showing exclamation mark next to ntfs partition



The warning says that it needs ntfs-3g installed, but it already is.



dialog showing information on partition with ntfs-3g error



gparted says its installed and can shrink.



gparted filesystem support showing ntfs-3g loaded and supporting shrink



I made sure that Windows had fast startup disabled and had been shut down properly.



I also ran chkdsk /f C: and rebooted and then shut down properly before trying again.



And to prove that it's able to load, I manually mounted the partition!



I also tried resizing with gnome-disks but it goes grey as though it's opening a dialog and freezes until I press alt-F4.



So, in summary:



  • ntfs-3g enabled

  • Windows fastboot disabled


  • chkdsk /f C: successful

  • Windows shut down properly (no hibernate)

  • partition mountable from Ubuntu

What else could be stopping it from being able to be shrunk?







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  • The first noticeable thing is that there appears to be no usage of sda4. I would expect to see some if you have W10 in there. It's possibly been corrupted. Can you mount sda4, then run command df -h and tell us if it shows any usage?
    – Paul Benson
    Apr 28 at 7:41











  • @PaulBenson Yes, the mount correctly shows 37GB of usage with 202GB free and Windows 10 runs correctly. I would expect if the partition were corrupted, then chkdsk /f C: on Windows would have shown there to be errors.
    – tudor
    Apr 28 at 11:26










  • That is really odd, because gparted is showing sda4 as an unused partition, whereas df shows things correctly. Did you mount sda4 from gparted? Have you tried viewing sda and its partitions in Disks? Once you've mounted sda4 does it show correctly in there? Do you have the partition show as a drive in the Launcher bar? Can you see/open the Windows folders and files without error from Ubuntu?
    – Paul Benson
    Apr 28 at 15:54















up vote
2
down vote

favorite












Trying to dual-boot install 18.04 on a machine with Windows 10 already installed. The installer didn't give me the option to shrink windows and dual-boot, so I went to manually repartition.



I tried to shrink the existing Windows 10 NTFS partition in gparted but there's an exclamation mark with a warning.



gparted showing exclamation mark next to ntfs partition



The warning says that it needs ntfs-3g installed, but it already is.



dialog showing information on partition with ntfs-3g error



gparted says its installed and can shrink.



gparted filesystem support showing ntfs-3g loaded and supporting shrink



I made sure that Windows had fast startup disabled and had been shut down properly.



I also ran chkdsk /f C: and rebooted and then shut down properly before trying again.



And to prove that it's able to load, I manually mounted the partition!



I also tried resizing with gnome-disks but it goes grey as though it's opening a dialog and freezes until I press alt-F4.



So, in summary:



  • ntfs-3g enabled

  • Windows fastboot disabled


  • chkdsk /f C: successful

  • Windows shut down properly (no hibernate)

  • partition mountable from Ubuntu

What else could be stopping it from being able to be shrunk?







share|improve this question




















  • The first noticeable thing is that there appears to be no usage of sda4. I would expect to see some if you have W10 in there. It's possibly been corrupted. Can you mount sda4, then run command df -h and tell us if it shows any usage?
    – Paul Benson
    Apr 28 at 7:41











  • @PaulBenson Yes, the mount correctly shows 37GB of usage with 202GB free and Windows 10 runs correctly. I would expect if the partition were corrupted, then chkdsk /f C: on Windows would have shown there to be errors.
    – tudor
    Apr 28 at 11:26










  • That is really odd, because gparted is showing sda4 as an unused partition, whereas df shows things correctly. Did you mount sda4 from gparted? Have you tried viewing sda and its partitions in Disks? Once you've mounted sda4 does it show correctly in there? Do you have the partition show as a drive in the Launcher bar? Can you see/open the Windows folders and files without error from Ubuntu?
    – Paul Benson
    Apr 28 at 15:54













up vote
2
down vote

favorite









up vote
2
down vote

favorite











Trying to dual-boot install 18.04 on a machine with Windows 10 already installed. The installer didn't give me the option to shrink windows and dual-boot, so I went to manually repartition.



I tried to shrink the existing Windows 10 NTFS partition in gparted but there's an exclamation mark with a warning.



gparted showing exclamation mark next to ntfs partition



The warning says that it needs ntfs-3g installed, but it already is.



dialog showing information on partition with ntfs-3g error



gparted says its installed and can shrink.



gparted filesystem support showing ntfs-3g loaded and supporting shrink



I made sure that Windows had fast startup disabled and had been shut down properly.



I also ran chkdsk /f C: and rebooted and then shut down properly before trying again.



And to prove that it's able to load, I manually mounted the partition!



I also tried resizing with gnome-disks but it goes grey as though it's opening a dialog and freezes until I press alt-F4.



So, in summary:



  • ntfs-3g enabled

  • Windows fastboot disabled


  • chkdsk /f C: successful

  • Windows shut down properly (no hibernate)

  • partition mountable from Ubuntu

What else could be stopping it from being able to be shrunk?







share|improve this question












Trying to dual-boot install 18.04 on a machine with Windows 10 already installed. The installer didn't give me the option to shrink windows and dual-boot, so I went to manually repartition.



I tried to shrink the existing Windows 10 NTFS partition in gparted but there's an exclamation mark with a warning.



gparted showing exclamation mark next to ntfs partition



The warning says that it needs ntfs-3g installed, but it already is.



dialog showing information on partition with ntfs-3g error



gparted says its installed and can shrink.



gparted filesystem support showing ntfs-3g loaded and supporting shrink



I made sure that Windows had fast startup disabled and had been shut down properly.



I also ran chkdsk /f C: and rebooted and then shut down properly before trying again.



And to prove that it's able to load, I manually mounted the partition!



I also tried resizing with gnome-disks but it goes grey as though it's opening a dialog and freezes until I press alt-F4.



So, in summary:



  • ntfs-3g enabled

  • Windows fastboot disabled


  • chkdsk /f C: successful

  • Windows shut down properly (no hibernate)

  • partition mountable from Ubuntu

What else could be stopping it from being able to be shrunk?









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  • The first noticeable thing is that there appears to be no usage of sda4. I would expect to see some if you have W10 in there. It's possibly been corrupted. Can you mount sda4, then run command df -h and tell us if it shows any usage?
    – Paul Benson
    Apr 28 at 7:41











  • @PaulBenson Yes, the mount correctly shows 37GB of usage with 202GB free and Windows 10 runs correctly. I would expect if the partition were corrupted, then chkdsk /f C: on Windows would have shown there to be errors.
    – tudor
    Apr 28 at 11:26










  • That is really odd, because gparted is showing sda4 as an unused partition, whereas df shows things correctly. Did you mount sda4 from gparted? Have you tried viewing sda and its partitions in Disks? Once you've mounted sda4 does it show correctly in there? Do you have the partition show as a drive in the Launcher bar? Can you see/open the Windows folders and files without error from Ubuntu?
    – Paul Benson
    Apr 28 at 15:54

















  • The first noticeable thing is that there appears to be no usage of sda4. I would expect to see some if you have W10 in there. It's possibly been corrupted. Can you mount sda4, then run command df -h and tell us if it shows any usage?
    – Paul Benson
    Apr 28 at 7:41











  • @PaulBenson Yes, the mount correctly shows 37GB of usage with 202GB free and Windows 10 runs correctly. I would expect if the partition were corrupted, then chkdsk /f C: on Windows would have shown there to be errors.
    – tudor
    Apr 28 at 11:26










  • That is really odd, because gparted is showing sda4 as an unused partition, whereas df shows things correctly. Did you mount sda4 from gparted? Have you tried viewing sda and its partitions in Disks? Once you've mounted sda4 does it show correctly in there? Do you have the partition show as a drive in the Launcher bar? Can you see/open the Windows folders and files without error from Ubuntu?
    – Paul Benson
    Apr 28 at 15:54
















The first noticeable thing is that there appears to be no usage of sda4. I would expect to see some if you have W10 in there. It's possibly been corrupted. Can you mount sda4, then run command df -h and tell us if it shows any usage?
– Paul Benson
Apr 28 at 7:41





The first noticeable thing is that there appears to be no usage of sda4. I would expect to see some if you have W10 in there. It's possibly been corrupted. Can you mount sda4, then run command df -h and tell us if it shows any usage?
– Paul Benson
Apr 28 at 7:41













@PaulBenson Yes, the mount correctly shows 37GB of usage with 202GB free and Windows 10 runs correctly. I would expect if the partition were corrupted, then chkdsk /f C: on Windows would have shown there to be errors.
– tudor
Apr 28 at 11:26




@PaulBenson Yes, the mount correctly shows 37GB of usage with 202GB free and Windows 10 runs correctly. I would expect if the partition were corrupted, then chkdsk /f C: on Windows would have shown there to be errors.
– tudor
Apr 28 at 11:26












That is really odd, because gparted is showing sda4 as an unused partition, whereas df shows things correctly. Did you mount sda4 from gparted? Have you tried viewing sda and its partitions in Disks? Once you've mounted sda4 does it show correctly in there? Do you have the partition show as a drive in the Launcher bar? Can you see/open the Windows folders and files without error from Ubuntu?
– Paul Benson
Apr 28 at 15:54





That is really odd, because gparted is showing sda4 as an unused partition, whereas df shows things correctly. Did you mount sda4 from gparted? Have you tried viewing sda and its partitions in Disks? Once you've mounted sda4 does it show correctly in there? Do you have the partition show as a drive in the Launcher bar? Can you see/open the Windows folders and files without error from Ubuntu?
– Paul Benson
Apr 28 at 15:54











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Use Windows tools to shrink the Windows partition



  • I suggest that you boot into Windows, and use the tools available there to shrink the Windows partition.


  • Do not create any new partition (because Windows will probably create a dynamic partition, which cannot be used by linux). Instead you should leave unallocated drive space.


  • Boot into Ubuntu live and use gparted to create a partition or partitions, that can be used by Ubuntu.






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  • Last time I checked, you can't change the partition you booted from in Windows. Has this changed?
    – tudor
    May 9 at 0:13










  • I think you checked very long ago. This has been possible for several years.
    – sudodus
    May 9 at 3:41

















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It is possible that the file system is in an inconsistent state and this would prevent the file system from being resized. This commonly happens if Windows was not shutdown properly (e.g., powered off, or hibernated).



The fix is to boot into Windows and perform a proper shutdown. Then boot from live media containing GParted (such as GParted Live) which should not mount any of the partitions. Then try the resize again.



Further be sure that Windows Dynamic Disks are not being used as these are not supported.






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  • I'm running this from an Ubuntu 18.04 USB Boot Disk. Your first 2 points are discounted by Point 3 - "chkdsk /f successful" and Point 4 - "Windows was properly shut down (No hibernate)". I will check on the dynamic disks, but I would be really surprised if I chose that as an option.
    – tudor
    May 3 at 0:55











  • GParted uses a command similar to the following to determine the used/unused sectors in an NTFS file system: sudo ntfsresize --info --force --no-progress-bar /dev/sda4 . You might try running the command from a terminal window to see if it reports any errors that might indicate the source of the problem
    – Curtis Gedak
    May 4 at 15:19

















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It possible to run the live installation in trial mode before attempting to use gparted.



then you can use a terminal to run ntfsfix /dev/sda4 to repair the ntfs partition.



you can now use gparted to resize the partition and create a new one.






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  • We've already established that the ntfs partition does not have any errors, so ntfsfix won't solve this problem.
    – tudor
    May 26 at 9:57











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Use Windows tools to shrink the Windows partition



  • I suggest that you boot into Windows, and use the tools available there to shrink the Windows partition.


  • Do not create any new partition (because Windows will probably create a dynamic partition, which cannot be used by linux). Instead you should leave unallocated drive space.


  • Boot into Ubuntu live and use gparted to create a partition or partitions, that can be used by Ubuntu.






share|improve this answer






















  • Last time I checked, you can't change the partition you booted from in Windows. Has this changed?
    – tudor
    May 9 at 0:13










  • I think you checked very long ago. This has been possible for several years.
    – sudodus
    May 9 at 3:41














up vote
1
down vote













Use Windows tools to shrink the Windows partition



  • I suggest that you boot into Windows, and use the tools available there to shrink the Windows partition.


  • Do not create any new partition (because Windows will probably create a dynamic partition, which cannot be used by linux). Instead you should leave unallocated drive space.


  • Boot into Ubuntu live and use gparted to create a partition or partitions, that can be used by Ubuntu.






share|improve this answer






















  • Last time I checked, you can't change the partition you booted from in Windows. Has this changed?
    – tudor
    May 9 at 0:13










  • I think you checked very long ago. This has been possible for several years.
    – sudodus
    May 9 at 3:41












up vote
1
down vote










up vote
1
down vote









Use Windows tools to shrink the Windows partition



  • I suggest that you boot into Windows, and use the tools available there to shrink the Windows partition.


  • Do not create any new partition (because Windows will probably create a dynamic partition, which cannot be used by linux). Instead you should leave unallocated drive space.


  • Boot into Ubuntu live and use gparted to create a partition or partitions, that can be used by Ubuntu.






share|improve this answer














Use Windows tools to shrink the Windows partition



  • I suggest that you boot into Windows, and use the tools available there to shrink the Windows partition.


  • Do not create any new partition (because Windows will probably create a dynamic partition, which cannot be used by linux). Instead you should leave unallocated drive space.


  • Boot into Ubuntu live and use gparted to create a partition or partitions, that can be used by Ubuntu.







share|improve this answer














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answered May 7 at 14:02









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  • Last time I checked, you can't change the partition you booted from in Windows. Has this changed?
    – tudor
    May 9 at 0:13










  • I think you checked very long ago. This has been possible for several years.
    – sudodus
    May 9 at 3:41
















  • Last time I checked, you can't change the partition you booted from in Windows. Has this changed?
    – tudor
    May 9 at 0:13










  • I think you checked very long ago. This has been possible for several years.
    – sudodus
    May 9 at 3:41















Last time I checked, you can't change the partition you booted from in Windows. Has this changed?
– tudor
May 9 at 0:13




Last time I checked, you can't change the partition you booted from in Windows. Has this changed?
– tudor
May 9 at 0:13












I think you checked very long ago. This has been possible for several years.
– sudodus
May 9 at 3:41




I think you checked very long ago. This has been possible for several years.
– sudodus
May 9 at 3:41












up vote
0
down vote













It is possible that the file system is in an inconsistent state and this would prevent the file system from being resized. This commonly happens if Windows was not shutdown properly (e.g., powered off, or hibernated).



The fix is to boot into Windows and perform a proper shutdown. Then boot from live media containing GParted (such as GParted Live) which should not mount any of the partitions. Then try the resize again.



Further be sure that Windows Dynamic Disks are not being used as these are not supported.






share|improve this answer






















  • I'm running this from an Ubuntu 18.04 USB Boot Disk. Your first 2 points are discounted by Point 3 - "chkdsk /f successful" and Point 4 - "Windows was properly shut down (No hibernate)". I will check on the dynamic disks, but I would be really surprised if I chose that as an option.
    – tudor
    May 3 at 0:55











  • GParted uses a command similar to the following to determine the used/unused sectors in an NTFS file system: sudo ntfsresize --info --force --no-progress-bar /dev/sda4 . You might try running the command from a terminal window to see if it reports any errors that might indicate the source of the problem
    – Curtis Gedak
    May 4 at 15:19














up vote
0
down vote













It is possible that the file system is in an inconsistent state and this would prevent the file system from being resized. This commonly happens if Windows was not shutdown properly (e.g., powered off, or hibernated).



The fix is to boot into Windows and perform a proper shutdown. Then boot from live media containing GParted (such as GParted Live) which should not mount any of the partitions. Then try the resize again.



Further be sure that Windows Dynamic Disks are not being used as these are not supported.






share|improve this answer






















  • I'm running this from an Ubuntu 18.04 USB Boot Disk. Your first 2 points are discounted by Point 3 - "chkdsk /f successful" and Point 4 - "Windows was properly shut down (No hibernate)". I will check on the dynamic disks, but I would be really surprised if I chose that as an option.
    – tudor
    May 3 at 0:55











  • GParted uses a command similar to the following to determine the used/unused sectors in an NTFS file system: sudo ntfsresize --info --force --no-progress-bar /dev/sda4 . You might try running the command from a terminal window to see if it reports any errors that might indicate the source of the problem
    – Curtis Gedak
    May 4 at 15:19












up vote
0
down vote










up vote
0
down vote









It is possible that the file system is in an inconsistent state and this would prevent the file system from being resized. This commonly happens if Windows was not shutdown properly (e.g., powered off, or hibernated).



The fix is to boot into Windows and perform a proper shutdown. Then boot from live media containing GParted (such as GParted Live) which should not mount any of the partitions. Then try the resize again.



Further be sure that Windows Dynamic Disks are not being used as these are not supported.






share|improve this answer














It is possible that the file system is in an inconsistent state and this would prevent the file system from being resized. This commonly happens if Windows was not shutdown properly (e.g., powered off, or hibernated).



The fix is to boot into Windows and perform a proper shutdown. Then boot from live media containing GParted (such as GParted Live) which should not mount any of the partitions. Then try the resize again.



Further be sure that Windows Dynamic Disks are not being used as these are not supported.







share|improve this answer














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answered Apr 28 at 19:39









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  • I'm running this from an Ubuntu 18.04 USB Boot Disk. Your first 2 points are discounted by Point 3 - "chkdsk /f successful" and Point 4 - "Windows was properly shut down (No hibernate)". I will check on the dynamic disks, but I would be really surprised if I chose that as an option.
    – tudor
    May 3 at 0:55











  • GParted uses a command similar to the following to determine the used/unused sectors in an NTFS file system: sudo ntfsresize --info --force --no-progress-bar /dev/sda4 . You might try running the command from a terminal window to see if it reports any errors that might indicate the source of the problem
    – Curtis Gedak
    May 4 at 15:19
















  • I'm running this from an Ubuntu 18.04 USB Boot Disk. Your first 2 points are discounted by Point 3 - "chkdsk /f successful" and Point 4 - "Windows was properly shut down (No hibernate)". I will check on the dynamic disks, but I would be really surprised if I chose that as an option.
    – tudor
    May 3 at 0:55











  • GParted uses a command similar to the following to determine the used/unused sectors in an NTFS file system: sudo ntfsresize --info --force --no-progress-bar /dev/sda4 . You might try running the command from a terminal window to see if it reports any errors that might indicate the source of the problem
    – Curtis Gedak
    May 4 at 15:19















I'm running this from an Ubuntu 18.04 USB Boot Disk. Your first 2 points are discounted by Point 3 - "chkdsk /f successful" and Point 4 - "Windows was properly shut down (No hibernate)". I will check on the dynamic disks, but I would be really surprised if I chose that as an option.
– tudor
May 3 at 0:55





I'm running this from an Ubuntu 18.04 USB Boot Disk. Your first 2 points are discounted by Point 3 - "chkdsk /f successful" and Point 4 - "Windows was properly shut down (No hibernate)". I will check on the dynamic disks, but I would be really surprised if I chose that as an option.
– tudor
May 3 at 0:55













GParted uses a command similar to the following to determine the used/unused sectors in an NTFS file system: sudo ntfsresize --info --force --no-progress-bar /dev/sda4 . You might try running the command from a terminal window to see if it reports any errors that might indicate the source of the problem
– Curtis Gedak
May 4 at 15:19




GParted uses a command similar to the following to determine the used/unused sectors in an NTFS file system: sudo ntfsresize --info --force --no-progress-bar /dev/sda4 . You might try running the command from a terminal window to see if it reports any errors that might indicate the source of the problem
– Curtis Gedak
May 4 at 15:19










up vote
-1
down vote













It possible to run the live installation in trial mode before attempting to use gparted.



then you can use a terminal to run ntfsfix /dev/sda4 to repair the ntfs partition.



you can now use gparted to resize the partition and create a new one.






share|improve this answer




















  • We've already established that the ntfs partition does not have any errors, so ntfsfix won't solve this problem.
    – tudor
    May 26 at 9:57















up vote
-1
down vote













It possible to run the live installation in trial mode before attempting to use gparted.



then you can use a terminal to run ntfsfix /dev/sda4 to repair the ntfs partition.



you can now use gparted to resize the partition and create a new one.






share|improve this answer




















  • We've already established that the ntfs partition does not have any errors, so ntfsfix won't solve this problem.
    – tudor
    May 26 at 9:57













up vote
-1
down vote










up vote
-1
down vote









It possible to run the live installation in trial mode before attempting to use gparted.



then you can use a terminal to run ntfsfix /dev/sda4 to repair the ntfs partition.



you can now use gparted to resize the partition and create a new one.






share|improve this answer












It possible to run the live installation in trial mode before attempting to use gparted.



then you can use a terminal to run ntfsfix /dev/sda4 to repair the ntfs partition.



you can now use gparted to resize the partition and create a new one.







share|improve this answer












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  • We've already established that the ntfs partition does not have any errors, so ntfsfix won't solve this problem.
    – tudor
    May 26 at 9:57

















  • We've already established that the ntfs partition does not have any errors, so ntfsfix won't solve this problem.
    – tudor
    May 26 at 9:57
















We've already established that the ntfs partition does not have any errors, so ntfsfix won't solve this problem.
– tudor
May 26 at 9:57





We've already established that the ntfs partition does not have any errors, so ntfsfix won't solve this problem.
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