Any Subgroup containing commutator subgroup is normal.
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I can prove that commutator is minimal subgroup such that factor group of it is abelian. I had encountered one statement as
If $H$ is a subgroup containing commutator subgroup then $H$ is
normal.
I.e. we have to show that $forall gin G$ such that $gHg^-1=H$ with fact that $G'subset H$
It is for elements in $G'$ to show condition for normality.
But how to do for elements not in $G'$ but in $H$ that in $H/G'$?
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I can prove that commutator is minimal subgroup such that factor group of it is abelian. I had encountered one statement as
If $H$ is a subgroup containing commutator subgroup then $H$ is
normal.
I.e. we have to show that $forall gin G$ such that $gHg^-1=H$ with fact that $G'subset H$
It is for elements in $G'$ to show condition for normality.
But how to do for elements not in $G'$ but in $H$ that in $H/G'$?
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I can prove that commutator is minimal subgroup such that factor group of it is abelian. I had encountered one statement as
If $H$ is a subgroup containing commutator subgroup then $H$ is
normal.
I.e. we have to show that $forall gin G$ such that $gHg^-1=H$ with fact that $G'subset H$
It is for elements in $G'$ to show condition for normality.
But how to do for elements not in $G'$ but in $H$ that in $H/G'$?
abstract-algebra group-theory normal-subgroups
I can prove that commutator is minimal subgroup such that factor group of it is abelian. I had encountered one statement as
If $H$ is a subgroup containing commutator subgroup then $H$ is
normal.
I.e. we have to show that $forall gin G$ such that $gHg^-1=H$ with fact that $G'subset H$
It is for elements in $G'$ to show condition for normality.
But how to do for elements not in $G'$ but in $H$ that in $H/G'$?
abstract-algebra group-theory normal-subgroups
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If $gin G$ and $hin H$, then $ghg^-1h^-1=h'$, for some $h'in H$ (since $H$ contains the commutator subgroup). But then $ghg^-1=h'hin H$. Therefore, $gHg^-1subset H$.
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$G'$ is certainly normal in $G$, and $G/G'$ is Abelian. Every
subgroup of an Abelian group is normal. But $H/G'$ is a subgroup
of $G/G'$ so $H/G'$ is normal in $G/G'$. Therefore, by the third
isomorphism theorem for groups, $H$ is normal in $G$.
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If $gin G$ and $hin H$, then $ghg^-1h^-1=h'$, for some $h'in H$ (since $H$ contains the commutator subgroup). But then $ghg^-1=h'hin H$. Therefore, $gHg^-1subset H$.
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If $gin G$ and $hin H$, then $ghg^-1h^-1=h'$, for some $h'in H$ (since $H$ contains the commutator subgroup). But then $ghg^-1=h'hin H$. Therefore, $gHg^-1subset H$.
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If $gin G$ and $hin H$, then $ghg^-1h^-1=h'$, for some $h'in H$ (since $H$ contains the commutator subgroup). But then $ghg^-1=h'hin H$. Therefore, $gHg^-1subset H$.
If $gin G$ and $hin H$, then $ghg^-1h^-1=h'$, for some $h'in H$ (since $H$ contains the commutator subgroup). But then $ghg^-1=h'hin H$. Therefore, $gHg^-1subset H$.
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$G'$ is certainly normal in $G$, and $G/G'$ is Abelian. Every
subgroup of an Abelian group is normal. But $H/G'$ is a subgroup
of $G/G'$ so $H/G'$ is normal in $G/G'$. Therefore, by the third
isomorphism theorem for groups, $H$ is normal in $G$.
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$G'$ is certainly normal in $G$, and $G/G'$ is Abelian. Every
subgroup of an Abelian group is normal. But $H/G'$ is a subgroup
of $G/G'$ so $H/G'$ is normal in $G/G'$. Therefore, by the third
isomorphism theorem for groups, $H$ is normal in $G$.
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$G'$ is certainly normal in $G$, and $G/G'$ is Abelian. Every
subgroup of an Abelian group is normal. But $H/G'$ is a subgroup
of $G/G'$ so $H/G'$ is normal in $G/G'$. Therefore, by the third
isomorphism theorem for groups, $H$ is normal in $G$.
$G'$ is certainly normal in $G$, and $G/G'$ is Abelian. Every
subgroup of an Abelian group is normal. But $H/G'$ is a subgroup
of $G/G'$ so $H/G'$ is normal in $G/G'$. Therefore, by the third
isomorphism theorem for groups, $H$ is normal in $G$.
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